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APG Thu Feb 24, 2011 08:37pm

If this happened in the NBA (which it probably wouldn't), Tim Floyd would have at minimum been fined for not leaving the court in a timely manner. He'd most definitely be suspended for making contact with an official. From the article above, it seems like he'll receive nothing but a slap on the wrist.

APG Thu Feb 24, 2011 08:54pm

UTEP Director of Athletics Bob Stull:

Quote:

"Based on previous games this year, Tim’s actions in the East Carolina game were uncharacteristic.
:rolleyes:

Umm...it may not be characteristic of what he's done THIS year, but this isn't the first time Floyd's rushed out onto the court, been ejected, and failed to leave in a timely manner.

Roy G Thu Feb 24, 2011 09:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 733954)
I don't blame him for what happened to the Bulls; other than the fact that he was an idiot for taking that job.

I used to live in Chicago, and had tickets to the Bulls in those years.

it seems that Tim had millions of reasons to take the job.

you would have too, if you had the chance.

RG

Berkut Thu Feb 24, 2011 09:57pm

As a long time fan of my beloved Arizona Wildcats....thank god Tim Floyd did not take the job...

Hard to believe Arizona ended up with Miller instead. Talk about dodging a bullet and walking into a bed of roses instead.

BktBallRef Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 733909)
And unlike Tim Floyd, Hartness has seen a major conference floor this season.

Oh, if you want to read some of the most laugh-out-loud quality drivel, look here:

Is Tony Greene On The Take?

This just an idiot with a blog...any knucklehead can open one on blogspot.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eastshire (Post 733957)
You should have read Rich's link. Our esteemed blogger maintains Floyd did nothing wrong and was unfairly targeted by a young official who was trying to prove himself/compensate for not being as well known as Floyd.

No reason to read it...I got halfway through and quit. It's fanboy bull$hit.

BktBallRef Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:06pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 733954)
I don't blame him for what happened to the Bulls; other than the fact that he was an idiot for taking that job.

No, but you can blame his buddy Jerry Krause, who actually thought he was a better coach than Phil Jackson just because he knew how to bait a hook.

Toadman15241 Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:25pm

It's official, no suspension.


"When a coach is ejected, I expect them to leave the floor," [the CUSA commissioner] said in a statement. "Coach Floyd's actions were unacceptable. I have made our expectations clear going forward and do not expect this to happen again."

dahoopref Fri Feb 25, 2011 01:27am

Doesn't surprise me about this guy since he's done this before. This video was shown a camp as in "How NOT to Handle an Ejected Coach."

YouTube - Is Tim Floyd Gonna Have To Choke A Ref?

APG Fri Feb 25, 2011 01:49am

Quote:

Originally Posted by dahoopref (Post 734127)
Doesn't surprise me about this guy since he's done this before. This video was shown a camp as in "How NOT to Handle an Ejected Coach."

YouTube - Is Tim Floyd Gonna Have To Choke A Ref?

Embed button is your friend

<iframe title="YouTube video player" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/AsqdeLOWIpc" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="390" width="480"></iframe>

ThatOneRef Fri Feb 25, 2011 03:06am

Wow
 
Wow, nice post. I love stupid coaches. Its what makes this game SO much fun..... yea....

Berkut Fri Feb 25, 2011 08:46am

Quote:

Originally Posted by dahoopref (Post 734127)
Doesn't surprise me about this guy since he's done this before. This video was shown a camp as in "How NOT to Handle an Ejected Coach."

What should they have done differently?

dahoopref Fri Feb 25, 2011 09:47am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berkut (Post 734178)
What should they have done differently?

After the first T, Hall and Cartmell allow Floyd to get across the floor and start screaming at McCall (who wasn't even the reporting official on the initial block/charge call). They should've have done everything to prevent Floyd to even get to the center circle and yell at McCall.

After the 2nd T, McCall then goes tableside that allows Floyd to keep screaming at him. Why even go close to a coach (who is obviously upset with you) that has been ejected?

Hall goes into a "touchy-feely" dance with Floyd. It appears that Hall is trying to appease Floyd and (0:48of the clip) even motions toward McCall in a "ask him" response. Now we don't know what was said but the appearance of Hall trying to play "good-cop/bad-cop" doesn't look good.

After the 2nd T, Hall then goes to the scorebook without addressing Floyd who is still on the floor. Sure, game management doesn't do the best job at getting Floyd off the floor but there is no reason why Cartmell has to deal with Floyd alone. Cartmell (without putting a hand on him) does his best to keep Floyd away from McCall. Deal with the coach first, then go to the scorebook and access the penalties.

rockyroad Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:42am

Quote:

Originally Posted by dahoopref (Post 734186)
After the first T, Hall and Cartmell allow Floyd to get across the floor and start screaming at McCall (who wasn't even the reporting official on the initial block/charge call). They should've have done everything to prevent Floyd to even get to the center circle and yell at McCall.

After the 2nd T, McCall then goes tableside that allows Floyd to keep screaming at him. Why even go close to a coach (who is obviously upset with you) that has been ejected?

Hall goes into a "touchy-feely" dance with Floyd. It appears that Hall is trying to appease Floyd and (0:48of the clip) even motions toward McCall in a "ask him" response. Now we don't know what was said but the appearance of Hall trying to play "good-cop/bad-cop" doesn't look good.

After the 2nd T, Hall then goes to the scorebook without addressing Floyd who is still on the floor. Sure, game management doesn't do the best job at getting Floyd off the floor but there is no reason why Cartmell has to deal with Floyd alone. Cartmell (without putting a hand on him) does his best to keep Floyd away from McCall. Deal with the coach first, then go to the scorebook and access the penalties.

Very nice breakdown...from the comfort of your office chair in front of your computer.

Had you been there, with that madman screaming in your face, do you honestly think you would have handled it any better than that crew did?

Rich Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:49am

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 734200)
Very nice breakdown...from the comfort of your office chair in front of your computer.

Had you been there, with that madman screaming in your face, do you honestly think you would have handled it any better than that crew did?

Agreed. But that's what Pyatt and Kersey did after the ejection -- they didn't let Floyd get anywhere near Hartness.

Those of us that work baseball probably have had this situation in the past since ejections are more common there. Once the coach is ejected, the other umpire's job is to get between the two and get the coach off the field. The ejecting umpire can then walk away. Since the coach no longer has access to the official he's mad at, odds are the situation will not escalate further.

Unless the coach is a complete madman like Floyd and his conference commissioner is an enabler, like Floyd's.

JRutledge Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:33pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by dahoopref (Post 734186)
After the first T, Hall and Cartmell allow Floyd to get across the floor and start screaming at McCall (who wasn't even the reporting official on the initial block/charge call). They should've have done everything to prevent Floyd to even get to the center circle and yell at McCall.

After the 2nd T, McCall then goes tableside that allows Floyd to keep screaming at him. Why even go close to a coach (who is obviously upset with you) that has been ejected?

Hall goes into a "touchy-feely" dance with Floyd. It appears that Hall is trying to appease Floyd and (0:48of the clip) even motions toward McCall in a "ask him" response. Now we don't know what was said but the appearance of Hall trying to play "good-cop/bad-cop" doesn't look good.

After the 2nd T, Hall then goes to the scorebook without addressing Floyd who is still on the floor. Sure, game management doesn't do the best job at getting Floyd off the floor but there is no reason why Cartmell has to deal with Floyd alone. Cartmell (without putting a hand on him) does his best to keep Floyd away from McCall. Deal with the coach first, then go to the scorebook and access the penalties.

I disagree as well. It is very easy to say what you should do when you are not there or not in the situation. Actually I looked at many of the actions by the officials similar to a baseball crew trying to get a mad man manager/coach off the field. Not sure what you can do if the guy wants to yell and scream and rant and rave like that. Most coaches do not act that way and I am sure they were trying to get on with the game. Easy to say what should be done when the actions of the coach were so over the top.

Peace


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