You think Coach K is bad?
 

Check out the latest from Tim Floyd.

Yowza!:eek:

What. An. Idiot.

You are too nice.

Below is another link with a quote from Floyd saying ,""I'd never seen him (the official who issued all the technicals) before and I don't know who he is. I've always earned my technicals and I didn't feel like I earned it."

Really, Tim? This guy is a clown. Nice to see his assistant get run too. 5 technical fouls in a 7 pt game because the coaches can't behave like adults. I hope, but seriously doubt, they apologized to their players after the game.

Tim Floyd Ejected: UTEP Basketball Coach Escorted Off Floor By Police (VIDEO)

He jacked the head coach and the top assistant...that was great. They gave him way too much rope IMO...he could have been jacked long before that.

The look on Floyd's face when the officer grabbed him was priceless.

The official was Jeb Hartness.

And unlike Tim Floyd, Hartness has seen a major conference floor this season.

Oh, if you want to read some of the most laugh-out-loud quality drivel, look here:

Is Tony Greene On The Take?

Smh
 

Wow...that's bad.

IMO the two things that people seem to know the least about but feel they can comment on extensively are basketball officiating and public policy/politics.

Happens to be the two areas that represent my advocation and my occupation.

WOW is right.
 

I am surprised the Tim Floyd has a job. Someone after the Bulls and the USC debacles decided to actually hire him?

Peace

Officials at that level want them to hang themselves. It was handled perfectly in my opinion as no one is going to dispute if he should have been ejected. If done before Floyd could complain he was targeted. Now he cannot say hardly anything as he never stopped focusing on the official.

Peace

I don't blame him for what happened to the Bulls; other than the fact that he was an idiot for taking that job.

You should have read Rich's link. Our esteemed blogger maintains Floyd did nothing wrong and was unfairly targeted by a young official who was trying to prove himself/compensate for not being as well known as Floyd.

I do not need to read links to know that coaches will make any excuse to justify their behavior. Obviously Floyd would not let whatever happened go. And it appeared that the official hardly said a word to him at all during the last sequence. So who cares what the blogger thinks. I might as well start a blog and talk about something I have never done too and sound like an expert.

Peace

Floyd given a stern talking-to by CUSA, but not much else.

Here's the laughable quote:

:confused: This guy lives in La-La land.

Floyd Likely Not to be Suspended After Ejection in Loss | KTSM News Channel 9

Floyd Likely Not to be Suspended After Ejection in Loss

If this happened in the NBA (which it probably wouldn't), Tim Floyd would have at minimum been fined for not leaving the court in a timely manner. He'd most definitely be suspended for making contact with an official. From the article above, it seems like he'll receive nothing but a slap on the wrist.

UTEP Director of Athletics Bob Stull:

:rolleyes:

Umm...it may not be characteristic of what he's done THIS year, but this isn't the first time Floyd's rushed out onto the court, been ejected, and failed to leave in a timely manner.

I used to live in Chicago, and had tickets to the Bulls in those years.

it seems that Tim had millions of reasons to take the job.

you would have too, if you had the chance.

RG

As a long time fan of my beloved Arizona Wildcats....thank god Tim Floyd did not take the job...

Hard to believe Arizona ended up with Miller instead. Talk about dodging a bullet and walking into a bed of roses instead.

This just an idiot with a blog...any knucklehead can open one on blogspot.

No reason to read it...I got halfway through and quit. It's fanboy bull$hit.

No, but you can blame his buddy Jerry Krause, who actually thought he was a better coach than Phil Jackson just because he knew how to bait a hook.

It's official, no suspension.


"When a coach is ejected, I expect them to leave the floor," [the CUSA commissioner] said in a statement. "Coach Floyd's actions were unacceptable. I have made our expectations clear going forward and do not expect this to happen again."

Doesn't surprise me about this guy since he's done this before. This video was shown a camp as in "How NOT to Handle an Ejected Coach."

YouTube - Is Tim Floyd Gonna Have To Choke A Ref?

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Wow
 

Wow, nice post. I love stupid coaches. Its what makes this game SO much fun..... yea....

What should they have done differently?

After the first T, Hall and Cartmell allow Floyd to get across the floor and start screaming at McCall (who wasn't even the reporting official on the initial block/charge call). They should've have done everything to prevent Floyd to even get to the center circle and yell at McCall.

After the 2nd T, McCall then goes tableside that allows Floyd to keep screaming at him. Why even go close to a coach (who is obviously upset with you) that has been ejected?

Hall goes into a "touchy-feely" dance with Floyd. It appears that Hall is trying to appease Floyd and (0:48of the clip) even motions toward McCall in a "ask him" response. Now we don't know what was said but the appearance of Hall trying to play "good-cop/bad-cop" doesn't look good.

After the 2nd T, Hall then goes to the scorebook without addressing Floyd who is still on the floor. Sure, game management doesn't do the best job at getting Floyd off the floor but there is no reason why Cartmell has to deal with Floyd alone. Cartmell (without putting a hand on him) does his best to keep Floyd away from McCall. Deal with the coach first, then go to the scorebook and access the penalties.

Very nice breakdown...from the comfort of your office chair in front of your computer.

Had you been there, with that madman screaming in your face, do you honestly think you would have handled it any better than that crew did?

Agreed. But that's what Pyatt and Kersey did after the ejection -- they didn't let Floyd get anywhere near Hartness.

Those of us that work baseball probably have had this situation in the past since ejections are more common there. Once the coach is ejected, the other umpire's job is to get between the two and get the coach off the field. The ejecting umpire can then walk away. Since the coach no longer has access to the official he's mad at, odds are the situation will not escalate further.

Unless the coach is a complete madman like Floyd and his conference commissioner is an enabler, like Floyd's.

I disagree as well. It is very easy to say what you should do when you are not there or not in the situation. Actually I looked at many of the actions by the officials similar to a baseball crew trying to get a mad man manager/coach off the field. Not sure what you can do if the guy wants to yell and scream and rant and rave like that. Most coaches do not act that way and I am sure they were trying to get on with the game. Easy to say what should be done when the actions of the coach were so over the top.

Peace

It's really hard to discuss best practices in any endeavor without using examples of situations involving less-than-best practices. It doesn't mean that the crew in the older Floyd scenario wasn't comprised of great officials. But I don't think any of them would tell you today that they handled that situation as well as they could have. As long as it creates a positive learning opportunity for others and no one is being hyper-critical, I don't see what the problem is with pointing out some "areas of opportunity" in the clip.

One of the officials at the camp I was at was on this game. He admitted that they handled Floyd incorrectly. They should've taken care of Floyd first and foremost before handling anything at the table. He uses this clip as a learning scenario on how (or how not) to handle a "flash point" during a game. As he talked about it, my respect for him as an official (as well as a person) grew immensley.

OK, so the breakdown/analysis you gave us all on page two of this thread was actually what the official talked about?
That is pretty cool that he would break it down like that and discuss what he felt they did poorly/could have done better.

First camp I ever attended the director showed us a tape of a fight that occurred in his game and how the officials mistakes help lead to the situation, mainly not paying attention to off-ball players. A lesson ingrained in my brain.

Ok-Tim Floyd is an embarassment to the coaching profession. Anybody here work volleyball? I have a terrible example of a high school coach getting ejected-

Middle of the fifth set a coach from the visiting school goes ballistic over a line call made by a home school's jv player.Referee accepts the call and awards the point accordingly.The coach then takes a couple of aggressive steps towards the JV girl who made the call while yelling at the referees and throwing his hat on the court.He earned the yellow,red,and yellow/red cards in a span of about 90 seconds.On the way out of our gym after being ejected he proceeded to karate kick one of the double doors.
In the case of Tim Floyd's video documented ejections there was game management in place to handle it.In my case we did not have communication with our game management staff.Afterword we realized that our school's security staff did not give us a radio to summon them if they were not in the gym and something happened.During the incident it was up to those of us in the building to get him out and finish the match.The table was being run by two former lady coaches and our only other available staff was the male head coach and myself.This coach played for a local university and was 6'5 240 or so and the we were both 5'5 160 or so.I was formulating what I was going to do if I had to deal with him and I would have said "Lay one hand on me in a inappropriate manner and I have absolutely no problem calling the cops."
He eventually leaves the building at the urging of his school's parents and AD but our security staff watched him until he left the premises.This coach's AD apologized to us for his behavior and made him write a letter of apology to the JV girl and our school.He was suspended one match for his behavior in this incident.Conference USA unfortunately does not realize the impact that letting Floyd get away with his antics will have at the high school and lower levels.

Had another incident where in a girls summer league basketball championship game one of the fans was ejected for commentary on the referees.On his way out he threatened to key my AD's car so we kept him in his office for about an half hour while the crowd dispersed.When he left he summoned a police officer who did a drive around and helped us disperse the crowd.An email was sent to the AD of the school who's fan was ejected saying "You will send some sort of administrative supervision or we will not play this boys championship game." They did and the boys fans were way more tame than the girls.

Its sad how coaches and fans are allowed to behave sometimes.Tim Floyd needed to be the example of what happens to people who display bad sportsmanship.

I did not say what they did worked like a charm. Just saying that when you are dealing with an unreasonable person that puts you in unreasonable situation. Of course they could have done a lot of situations, but not many of us will ever be in that situation or see it many times in our career. So we can discuss all kinds of things they could have done, but it changes when the lights are on you. That is really all I am saying. If the officials did the things differently or did things in a different order, that is not going to change this maniac.

Peace