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Freddy Wed Feb 23, 2011 06:29pm

Calling All Table Officials
 
Since a good number of them frequent this discussion board . . .
QUIT PUTTING THE NEW TEAM FOUL ON THE BOARD BEFORE WE REPORT THE FOUL!!! Yeah, I AM shouting! :mad:
For about the fifth time this year we almost had a correctable error situation because, after whistling the foul and noting the sixth team foul tally on the board before reporting the foul to the table, we proceed to begin a one-and-one administration. Horn sounds to stop us and inform us that that was only the sixth team foul.
Table officials out there, spread it around. Please wait until after we report the foul to change or announce the new team foul tally. If it's five or nine team fouls, it's five or nine team fouls until we notify you that the next team foul has occurred.
Oh, and tell your announcer buddies to follow the same protocol. They're usually right there by you.
The best correctable error is one that is avoided.
There. I feel better.

Bad Zebra Wed Feb 23, 2011 06:37pm

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Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 733666)
Since a good number of them frequent this discussion board . . .

How bout we ask the mods to give them their own section? :p Probably draw more activity than Swimming and Track & Field. Darn good chance it would be pretty entertaining to look in on.

Freddy Wed Feb 23, 2011 06:49pm

Such a Time as This!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra (Post 733669)
How bout we ask the mods to give them their own section? :p Probably draw more activity than Swimming and Track & Field. Darn good chance it would be pretty entertaining to look in on.

+1 . . . but not until they all see the above rant.

26 Year Gap Wed Feb 23, 2011 06:52pm

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Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 733672)
+1 . . . but not until they all see the above rant.

Maybe they could make it a 'sticky'.

chseagle Wed Feb 23, 2011 06:57pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 733666)
QUIT PUTTING THE NEW TEAM FOUL ON THE BOARD BEFORE WE REPORT THE FOUL!!!

I always wait until the reporting official reports the foul to post the foul on the scoreboard.

I'll go as far as signaling bonus/double bonus after the reporting official reports it.

LeeBallanfant Wed Feb 23, 2011 07:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 733675)
I always wait until the reporting official reports the foul to post the foul on the scoreboard.

I'll go as far as signaling bonus/double bonus after the reporting official reports it.

According to NCAA rule book (Art 2-11), Scorekeeper is supposed to signal nearest official for bonus. Why would a referee tried to decipher the scoreboard?

chseagle Wed Feb 23, 2011 07:57pm

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Originally Posted by LeeBallanfant (Post 733687)
According to NCAA rule book (Art 2-11), Scorekeeper is supposed to signal nearest official for bonus. Why would a referee tried to decipher the scoreboard?

I'm meaning high school, not college, so a bit of a difference in rules.

From what I have noticed in NCAA rules, there's only one scorer, compared to 2 in HS.

APG Wed Feb 23, 2011 08:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 733689)
I'm meaning high school, not college, so a bit of a difference in rules.

From what I have noticed in NCAA rules, there's only one scorer, compared to 2 in HS.

How is the rule different under NFHS?

2-11
The scorer shall:
Art. 10...Signal in each half when a player commits a common foul beginning with his/her team's seventh and 10th foul.

chseagle Wed Feb 23, 2011 08:13pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 733694)
How is the rule different under NFHS?

2-11
The scorer shall:
Art. 10...Signal in each half when a player commits a common foul beginning with his/her team's seventh and 10th foul.

However, the timer is not supposed to signal bonus/double bonus.

I was meaning as a timer I'll signal.

Unfortunately, in my neck of the woods no one seems to really study the rules/regulations that works table, nor do they do what is recommended in Appendix IV in the Officials' Manual.

JugglingReferee Wed Feb 23, 2011 08:19pm

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 733695)
However, the timer is not supposed to signal bonus/double bonus.

I was meaning as a timer I'll signal.

Unfortunately, in my neck of the woods no one seems to really study the rules/regulations that works table, nor do they do what is recommended in Appendix IV in the Officials' Manual.

And that's frustrating, isn't it?

APG Wed Feb 23, 2011 08:20pm

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 733695)
However, the timer is not supposed to signal bonus/double bonus.

I was meaning as a timer I'll signal.

Unfortunately, in my neck of the woods no one seems to really study the rules/regulations that works table, nor do they do what is recommended in Appendix IV in the Officials' Manual.

I don't get your point. Leeball showed the rule that said the scorer is suppose to signal the official when a team reaches the bonus. He asked why an official would try to decipher the board when the scorer is suppose to inform him. Then you said something about a rules difference. :confused:

Raymond Wed Feb 23, 2011 08:47pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 733689)
I'm meaning high school, not college, so a bit of a difference in rules.

From what I have noticed in NCAA rules, there's only one scorer, compared to 2 in HS.

What's the difference in rules?

chseagle Wed Feb 23, 2011 09:27pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 733704)
What's the difference in rules?

Basically the obvious: bigger court, men having the different 3-pt. line, timing regulations, table setup, officials' mechanics.

Anything else I'm missing?

APG Wed Feb 23, 2011 09:31pm

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 733713)
Basically the obvious: bigger court, men having the different 3-pt. line, timing regulations, table setup, officials' mechanics.

Anything else I'm missing?

What are you talking about?! :confused: You implied there was a rules difference in the duties of the timer in NFHS and NCAA.

BktBallRef Wed Feb 23, 2011 09:50pm

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Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 733666)
Since a good number of them frequent this discussion board . . .
QUIT PUTTING THE NEW TEAM FOUL ON THE BOARD BEFORE WE REPORT THE FOUL!!! Yeah, I AM shouting! :mad:

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