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Section 10. Duties of Timer The official timer shall: Art. 1. Be provided with a game clock to be used for timing periods and intermissions and a digital stopwatch. The game clock & digital stopwatch shall be placed so that they may be seen by both the timer & the shot-clock operator. Art. 2. Operate the game clock. Art. 3. Note and notify the referee more than three minutes before each half is to start. Art. 4. Signal the scorers three minutes before starting time. Art. 5. Record playing time & time of stoppages. Art. 6. Notify an official when the timer has information pertaining to a timing mistake. Art. 7. Start the game clock as prescribed in Rule 5-9. Art. 8. Start the digital stopwatch for a charged timeout, to replace a disqualified player, (women) to remedy a lost, irritated or displaced contact lens, & signal the referee when it is time to resume play. Art. 9. Sound a warning horn 15 seconds before the expiration of the 20-second time limit to replace a disqualified or injured player. The signal also shall be sounded at the end of the 20 seconds to replace a disqualified or injured player. Art. 10. Sound a warning horn 15 seconds before the expiration of an intermission or charged timeout. A second signal shall be given at the expiration of an intermission or a charged timeout. Play shall be resumed immediately upon the sounding of the second signal. Art. 11. Stop the game clock as prescribed in Rule 5-10. Art. 12. Stop the game clock after a successful field goal with 59.9 seconds or less remaining in the game or any extra period. Art. 13. Use the game-clock horn when the ball has become dead & a correctable error situation has been brought to the scorer’s attention by a coach. Art. 14. Indicate with the red light or LED lights the expiration of playing time in each half or extra period. This signal shall terminate player activity. When a red light is not present, the indicator that shall terminate players’ activity shall be the sounding of the game-clock horn. Art. 15. Enter the playing court or use other means to immediately notify the referee when the timers’ red light signal or LED lights fail to operate or be seen or when a game-clock horn fails to sound or is inaudible. When, in the meantime, a goal has been made or a foul has occurred, the referee shall consult the timers. a. When the timers agree that time expired before a try for field goal was in flight, the goal shall not count. b. When the timers agree that the period ended before a foul occurred as in Rule 5-7.3.c, the foul shall be disregarded unless it was a flagrant technical foul or (men) a contact dead ball technical foul. c. When the timers disagree about the expiration of time before a successful try for field goal or foul, the goal shall count or the foul shall be penalized unless the referee has knowledge that alters such a ruling. NFHS: SECTION 12 TIMER’S DUTIES The timer shall: ART. 1 . . . Note when each half is to start and shall notify the referee more than three minutes before this time so the referee may notify the teams, or cause them to be notified, at least three minutes before the half is to start. ART. 2 . . . Signal the scorer three minutes before starting time. ART. 3 . . . Be provided with a clock to be used for timing quarters, extra periods and intermissions, and a stopwatch for timing time-outs. The clock shall be operated by the official timer. The clock and a stopwatch shall be placed so that they may be seen by the timer. The clock shall be started or stopped as prescribed in Rule 5-8 and 5-9. ART. 4 . . . Sound a warning signal 15 seconds before the expiration of an intermission or a 60-second charged time-out and at 15 seconds of a 30-second time-out, immediately after which the players shall prepare to be ready to resume play, and signal again at the end of the intermission or time-out. ART. 5 . . . Sound a warning signal 15 seconds before the expiration of the 20 seconds (maximum) permitted for replacing a disqualified or injured player, or for a player directed to leave the game. NOTE: The official shall signal the timer to begin the 20-second interval for replacing an injured player after the injured player has been removed from the court and the coach has been notified that a replacement is required, except as in 3-3-6. ART. 6 . . . Stop the clock at the expiration of time for each quarter or extra period, and when an official signals time-out, as in 5-8. For an intermission or a charged time-out, start the stopwatch and signal the referee as outlined in Article 5. ART. 7 . . . Indicate by signal the expiration of playing time in each quarter or extra period. If a red/LED light is used, the light is the official expiration of playing time. Article 5 of Timer's Duties in NCAA is a difference as I've never heard of a HS Timer having to record playing time & time of stoppages. Also, unless misunderstanding the concepts, the timer in NCAA has more authority than a HS Timer does. Anything else missing?? |
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This is why, in the other thread, I stated that I never trust the board. If I see 6 or even 7 on the board, I ask the scorer (not the timer) to verify that we're in the bonus. I do the same thing when I see 10 for the first time. Too many timers jump the gun or get this wrong, I'm not trusting the score board.
To me, it tells me we're getting close, but I generally know that anyway. |
You missed the entire point of the question.
Lee quoted the NCAA rule, and you suggested it's different at the high school level for this very issue. It's not. No need to post all the rules differences that are irrelevant to the situation. Quote:
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The number of good scorers who are holding up 1 and 1 or 2 as I'm reporting the 7th or 10th foul (as we used to ALWAYS get), well, I could count them this season on one hand. But they are pretty good about keeping the boards accurate around here. I put the PA announcer who announces the foul before I report it in the same category, BTW. Annoying. |
Come to SoCal and work with me Rich! I will verbally warn on 6 and 9 and signal for 7 and 10.The warning would be something like "Bonus/Double Bonus on the next ________."My signal for one and one is forefingers of each hand together then spread them apart.For double bonus I put the pointer and forefingers of each hand together and wave them back and forth.
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Having two scorebooks at the table, is a checks & balances system. Several times, in Sub-V games have I gone to both books during halftime & have found some discrepancies in either the score or the foul counts. |
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I have been doing what I can to train them properly, however I have no say (and apparently the coaches don't care), & there seems to be always some issues each game. |
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I have more issues in 5 games with the clock than I've had in my career with the scorebook. |
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