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Rich Mon Feb 21, 2011 05:57pm

Coach K gets whacked
 
You know, this just doesn't happen often enough. :D

Video of Coach K's technical foul - WRALSportsFan.com

APG Mon Feb 21, 2011 06:13pm

Coach K is STILL yapping about the call...during the free throws for the tech. He was yelling at the calling official who was opposite. What does it take to get a second T short of him sprinting on the court?

An NBA coach keeps going on with the vigor K is going, and he's watching the rest of the game in the locker room. But I guess I shouldn't ask for too much...one is more than anyone can really expect.

Welpe Mon Feb 21, 2011 06:14pm

I bet Dukie V's heart skipped a couple of beats.

grunewar Mon Feb 21, 2011 06:29pm

Couldn't Happen to a Nicer Guy!
 
I knew in hockey they had the "Ovech-cam."

But, I was unaware there was the "Coach K-Cam." :confused:

Whack!

Rich Mon Feb 21, 2011 06:39pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 732618)
Coach K is STILL yapping about the call...during the free throws for the tech. He was yelling at the calling official who was opposite. What does it take to get a second T short of him sprinting on the court?

That's about what it would take and then they'd still probably try to talk him back to the box without ejecting him.

APG Mon Feb 21, 2011 06:56pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 732624)
That's about what it would take and then they'd still probably try to talk him back to the box without ejecting him.

I mean we saw Tim Floyd a couple of years back get ejected after he ran onto the court vs. ASU. It even took that crew a little bit before he was tossed. He literally went opposite, yelled at the official before you finally hear a whistle and he's tossed.

Now Coach K isn't the only coach who goes ape sh** like this....he's just the most visible.

Rich Mon Feb 21, 2011 07:00pm

Hey, I understand. I've only excused 2 basketball coaches in 24 years. I have had one or two that in retrospect I probably should've gotten rid of, but you just don't think that way in the heat of it all -- a basketball ejection is like the nuclear option.

For some reason, it's easier in baseball. Usually the coach is out on the field when he crosses the line and it seems more normal ejecting baseball coaches than ejecting basketball coaches.

grunewar Mon Feb 21, 2011 07:08pm

Anyone see Huggy being "restrained" by his Asst Coaches this weekend?

Another unhappy customer.

Bwahahahahah! :D

APG Mon Feb 21, 2011 07:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 732631)
Hey, I understand. I've only excused 2 basketball coaches in 24 years. I have had one or two that in retrospect I probably should've gotten rid of, but you just don't think that way in the heat of it all -- a basketball ejection is like the nuclear option.

For some reason, it's easier in baseball. Usually the coach is out on the field when he crosses the line and it seems more normal ejecting baseball coaches than ejecting basketball coaches.

Oh, I'm not saying there needs to be more ejections. It just seems like at that level, they're slow to even T some of these actions...like a coach has to be over the top just to receive much less an ejection.

I mean, is there a reason we should allow a coach to go on for a minute like Coach K did after being T'd? Should we allow a coach to be yelling across the court like he's doing? The whole reason we go opposite on technical fouls on the coach is to avoid a possible confrontation and allow the coach to cool down, but he's not even doing that!

Mark Padgett Mon Feb 21, 2011 07:38pm

Oh - you mean he got a technical. Where I grew up, "whacked" meant something else! :cool:

http://www.textually.org/tv/archives...opranos460.jpg

SethPDX Mon Feb 21, 2011 09:51pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 732633)
Anyone see Huggy being "restrained" by his Asst Coaches this weekend?

Another unhappy customer.

Bwahahahahah! :D

Missed that, but he looked like he rolled in off the golf course in that short sleeve windbreaker. :D

26 Year Gap Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:05pm

Where's the dang "like" button?

Rich Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 732633)
Anyone see Huggy being "restrained" by his Asst Coaches this weekend?

Another unhappy customer.

Bwahahahahah! :D

Huggy didn't even get whacked for that, did he?

I guess I don't belong at that level -- anytime a coach needs to be held back by someone equals a technical foul in my world.

BktBallRef Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:14pm

One of my regular partners was at the game, about 20 rows behind the Duke bench. He could stare right into K's face during timeouts. I didn't see the call but my partner, who is not a Duke fan, said it was a terrible call. Everybody thought the call was going against GT. So when Kersey signaled Dule #3, K lost. My partner told his friend to watch because a T was coming. Sure enough. Kersey went opposite and ignored K, which pissed him off all the more. If igure K either said a magic word or it had already been building up, an ABS T.

Victor74 Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:27pm

It may have been a deserved technical, but it was a predictable one. Coach K did have every reason to be upset. He was more upset at the previous player control foul on Nolan Smith. The call on the Duke player afterwards was just icing on the cake.

jbduke Tue Feb 22, 2011 01:25am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Victor74 (Post 732697)
It may have been a deserved technical, but it was a predictable one. Coach K did have every reason to be upset. He was more upset at the previous player control foul on Nolan Smith. The call on the Duke player afterwards was just icing on the cake.

I agree it was predictable, but not because K had every reason to be upset. The aforementioned PC call by Hess was absolute nails. And on the play leading up to the technical, Duke's Thornton was holding Tech's Shumpert. And holding, and holding. Finally he lets go for a moment, but by that time Shumpert has had enough and gives him a little push with his arm, sending the Duke player to ground. Thornton's performance was tremendous. I watched him go down on replay three or four times last night, convinced he'd taken a forearm to the chops. But when I cued up the play tonight, it's clear that Shumpert never made contact with Thornton much above chest level.

I just wish Kersey had pulled the trigger on the hold on Thornton early. He gets credit for a correct call, probably avoids a technical foul, and nobody's talking about him today.

Judtech Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:16am

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbduke (Post 732752)
I agree it was predictable, but not because K had every reason to be upset. The aforementioned PC call by Hess was absolute nails. And on the play leading up to the technical, Duke's Thornton was holding Tech's Shumpert. And holding, and holding. Finally he lets go for a moment, but by that time Shumpert has had enough and gives him a little push with his arm, sending the Duke player to ground. Thornton's performance was tremendous. I watched him go down on replay three or four times last night, convinced he'd taken a forearm to the chops. But when I cued up the play tonight, it's clear that Shumpert never made contact with Thornton much above chest level.

I just wish Kersey had pulled the trigger on the hold on Thornton early. He gets credit for a correct call, probably avoids a technical foul, and nobody's talking about him today.

:confused:

Raymond Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:22am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judtech (Post 732909)
:confused:

This actually may have been Duke's best post ever.

I didn't see the game but I guessing he is saying that if Kersey had call a hold on Thornton early before the Schumbert's reaction that led to Thornton falling to the ground then Coach K wouldn't have reacted as such.

jbduke Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:24am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judtech (Post 732909)
:confused:

Okay, if you want precision, the contact was around Thornton's left clavicle, but he reacted as if he'd been clocked in the jaw.

:confused:

Judtech Tue Feb 22, 2011 01:33pm

Actually, my questions was were you trying to say there wasn't MUCH contact or that the contact wasn't MUCH above the shoulders?
From what I saw Thorton was not the one initiating contact and had his hands in the air. But that is just my view
Of course, this T was very predictable when looking at the previous several plays. Coach K was not happy with a couple of calls prior and VERY not happy about the previous call. The call on Thorton was just the straw that broke the camels back.

jbduke Tue Feb 22, 2011 01:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judtech (Post 733010)
Actually, my questions was were you trying to say there wasn't MUCH contact or that the contact wasn't MUCH above the shoulders?
From what I saw Thorton was not the one initiating contact and had his hands in the air. But that is just my view
Of course, this T was very predictable when looking at the previous several plays. Coach K was not happy with a couple of calls prior and VERY not happy about the previous call. The call on Thorton was just the straw that broke the camels back.

That's fair. There was enough contact to knock Thornton back a little bit, but he definitely embellished the amount of force he absorbed. Said force was delivered, as I added later, just below shoulder level, I believe.

As to what you narrate above, that is an accurate description of the second half of the play. The first half of the play saw Thornton significantly impeding GT's Shumpert as he tried to initiate a curl around a screen. My guess is that Kersey would have called the initial foul on Thornton if he'd held on to Shumpert a beat longer, but then Thornton left go. That's when the action you described began.

LeeBallanfant Tue Feb 22, 2011 08:54pm

Coach K's sparks team with T
 
Guess it worked for Coach K according to this report.

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