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ref2coach Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:23am

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 731053)
eagle, could you do us all a favor and just STFU?

BBR can you be a little bit circumspect? There are many times over the years you have been more overbearing than CHS has been.

chseagle Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:24am

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 731053)
None of that means a thing. If the guy needs to learn about the horn, he can allow the time to run down and see what the horn sounds like.

eagle, could you do us all a favor and just STFU?

BBR, I said game management as a whole.

All I am saying is that not always will it be allowed for the clock to completely run to zero for pregame.

Also I am being civilized in my responses, please do the same.

ref2coach Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:31am

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 731065)
Do the letters FO mean anything to you?

Does hypocrite and bully mean anything to you? You are exhibiting the epitome of "keeping posts civil" :rolleyes:


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BktBallRef Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:33am

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 731064)
BBR, I said game management as a whole.

All I am saying is that not always will it be allowed for the clock to completely run to zero for pregame.

And nobody cares whether you will always be allowed to completely run the clock down to zero for pregame. It has NOTHING to do with the thread.

If the man is going to work the clock, no one is going to stop him from checking it out and seeing how it works. You know it, I know, and everybody here knows it. So please don't bore us with all this other nonsense.

ref2coach, different boards, different standards. Not my rules over there, I just have to enforce them. Rules aren't as strict here. Don't like it? Makes no difference to me.

APG Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:34am

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 731047)
Timekeeper means the same thing as timer. Unless I'm mistaken it's an older term that has previously been used.

Yes the horn ends the period, however I can see the reasoning for asking especially in noisy gyms where it might be hard to heard a short horn blast.

The term is timer. You say you have a rule book so it should be easy to look up. Remember, on this forum, we speak officiating, therefore we use officiating terms.

Also if the timer really is concerned with the horn, he could very easily test out the clock by setting it close to zero and letting the clock run. All he would have to do is note how much time was on the clock before he did this.

chseagle Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:42am

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 731067)
And nobody cares whether you will always be allowed to completely run the clock down to zero for pregame. It has NOTHING to do with the thread.

If the man is going to work the clock, no one is going to stop him from checking it out and seeing how it works. You know it, I know, and everybody here knows it. So please don't bore us with all this other nonsense.

A good suggestion then would be to do a dry run before the shootarounds/pregame starts. Set the clock for like 10 secs. & run it down from there & do a quick stop clock as the horn sounds & see what happens.

chseagle Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:44am

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 731072)
The term is timer. You say you have a rule book so it should be easy to look up. Remember, on this forum, we speak officiating, therefore we use officiating terms.

Also if the timer really is concerned with the horn, he could very easily test out the clock by setting it close to zero and letting the clock run. All he would have to do is note how much time was on the clock before he did this.

APG, I am meaning in the past the term "timekeeper" was used instead of timer, possibly.

All the rule books I've read do say "Timer", however I was asking for clarification that maybe way back when the term "timekeeper" might of been used.

BktBallRef Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:45am

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 731076)
A good suggestion then would be to do a dry run before the shootarounds/pregame starts. Set the clock for like 10 secs. & run it down from there & do a quick stop clock as the horn sounds & see what happens.

You mean like checking it out and seeing how it works. What a wonderful idea. :rolleyes:

APG Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:48am

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 731078)
APG, I am meaning in the past the term "timekeeper" was used instead of timer, possibly.

All the rule books I've read do say "Timer", however I was asking for clarification that maybe way back when the term "timekeeper" might of been used.

It doesn't matter. BBR was correctly informing the OP of the correct terminology used today. Whatever was used in the past is irrelevant.

chseagle Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:51am

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 731079)
You mean like checking it out and seeing how it works. What a wonderful idea. :rolleyes:

IOW getting there to the game site far enough in advance that if you do not know the controls you can play around with them.

Before the pregame countdown starts, if that is possble.

Like I was saying earlier, letting the clock run down to :00.0 for pregame cannot always be done, as it depends on how game management wants things done.

chseagle Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:52am

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 731080)
It doesn't matter. BBR was correctly informing the OP of the correct terminology used today. Whatever was used in the past is irrelevant.

I was not arguing that fact, except that the OP might be used to the older term.

ref2coach Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:56am

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 731069)
ref2coach, different boards, different standards. Not my rules over there, I just have to enforce them. Rules aren't as strict here. Don't like it? Makes no difference to me.

Ya-but!! :rolleyes:


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