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[Indianaref]

I forget who said it in another thread, RSBQ maybe helps you to understand it better but it is just camp speak for advantage/disadvantage. Hand checking is one of those things that I know it when I see it and I will call it.

[dsqrddgd909]

2010-2011 POE

Can someone explain to this 2nd year official, how to interpret #3? I understand all contact is not a foul.

3. PERIMETER PLAY. Two illegal actions are taking place on the perimeter of the court that are particularly problematic. First, defensive players are illegally using their hands to “check” the ball handler/dribbler. Secondly, offensive players are palming the ball to elude the defender. Both of these illegal tactics are going uncalled, which in turn, promotes further illegal actions (see Point of Emphasis #1).

A. Hand checking.

1) Hand checking is any tactic using the hands or arms that allows a player, on offense or defense, to control (hold, impede, push, divert, slow or prevent) the movement of an opposing player.
2) Hand checking is a foul and is not incidental contact.
3) Defensive players shall not have hand(s) on the offensive player. When a player has a hand on, two hands on or jabs a hand or forearm on an opponent, it is a foul.
4) When a player contacts an opponent with his or her hands as an aid in starting, stopping, driving around, defending a screen, controlling or anticipating the opponent’s next move, it is a foul. Players may not place their hands on an opponent with or without the ball.
5) Much of the roughness in the interscholastic game today is a direct result of not assessing the proper penalty when illegal contact with the hand(s) occurs.

[bob jenkins]

NCAAW has made it clear that "handchecking" does NOT require RSBQ / Displacement / Ad-disad to be a foul. A hand remaining on, two hands, continuous hands, an extended arm-bar is a foul. A single "hot stove" touch is allowed, as long as it does not displace / impede / reroute.

Given who is in charge, I wouldn't be surprised to see that philosophy trickle down.

[tref]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

NCAAW has made it clear that "handchecking" does NOT require RSBQ / Displacement / Ad-disad to be a foul. A hand remaining on, two hands, continuous hands, an extended arm-bar is a foul. A single "hot stove" touch is allowed, as long as it does not displace / impede / reroute.

Given who is in charge, I wouldn't be surprised to see that philosophy trickle down.

Well they need to eliminate "mere contact does not constitute a foul" then.
I thought we refereed the result of contact
But I'm versatile, I can adjust depending upon what a particular boss wants from night to night.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

NCAAW has made it clear that "handchecking" does NOT require RSBQ / Displacement / Ad-disad to be a foul. A hand remaining on, two hands, continuous hands, an extended arm-bar is a foul. A single "hot stove" touch is allowed, as long as it does not displace / impede / reroute.

Given who is in charge, I wouldn't be surprised to see that philosophy trickle down.

Know what? That's exactly how we teach that the play should be called. And afaik, it also fits in perfectly with what the FED is trying to accomplish through their almost yearly POE's on hand checking.

Well said.

[chartrusepengui]

+1

[CoachP]

Rsbq????

[dsqrddgd909]

Rhythm,speed balance, quickness.

[tref]

Rhythym, Speed, Balance & Quickness... you know, freedom of movement.