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GoodwillRef Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:58am
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Originally Posted by tref (Post 730625)
I wouldn't make him redo the throw-in but perhaps a T is warranted depending on what has happened prior in the contest.

I bounce it to them in the b/c & when I do hand it off in the f/c, its rarely hand to hand. I generally stick it in their chest, unless its a girls game of course.
This is a great point...if you bounce the ball he can't slap it or grab it...but you can't always bounce the ball.

bainsey Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:05pm
Doesn't the throw-in have to be "controlled" (for the lack of a better word, I know there's no player/team control on a throw-in) by the thrower-in?

In my sophomore season, I bounce-passed the ball to thrower-in A1. She bobbled it, and it went right to A2, her intended target and the only player within 35 feet. I let it go, but I was told later that was wrong.

Adam Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:07pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 730750)
Doesn't the throw-in have to be "controlled" (for the lack of a better word, I know there's no player/team control on a throw-in) by the thrower-in?

In my sophomore season, I bounce-passed the ball to thrower-in A1. She bobbled it, and it went right to A2, her intended target and the only player within 35 feet. I let it go, but I was told later that was wrong.
Got a rule reference?

stir22 Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:07pm
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Originally Posted by GoodwillRef (Post 730742)
This is a great point...if you bounce the ball he can't slap it or grab it...but you can't always bounce the ball.
at the risk of sounding like an idiot, why is this? some of the guys in our pool bounce it no matter where they are.

bainsey Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:08pm
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 730752)
Got a rule reference?
I don't. I'm not sure the book says something either way. It was just a vet's advice.

Adam Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:09pm
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Originally Posted by stir22 (Post 730753)
at the risk of sounding like an idiot, why is this? some of the guys in our pool bounce it no matter where they are.
FC endline throw-ins, hand the ball to the thrower. I'm not aware of any area or mechanics/rules set that allows for bounces on this play.

Adam Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:10pm
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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 730754)
I don't. I'm not sure the book says something either way. It was just a vet's advice.
It's not a requirement. How many times, when the official bounces it to the thrower, have you seen a player tap the ball inbounds without grabbing it?

CoachP Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:15pm
My favorite (and I may have mentioned it here before). Official near halfcourt ready to administer throw in with A1 OOB. (A1 and A2 only players in the area.)

Mr. Official, instead of tossing ball to A1 for throw in, bounce passes in bounds to A2.

bainsey Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:21pm
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 730756)
It's not a requirement. How many times, when the official bounces it to the thrower, have you seen a player tap the ball inbounds without grabbing it?
Plenty of times, but only after a basket, and that's nothing that requires administration, anyway. When there's administration, I've always made sure the thrower-in controlled the ball.

Adam Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:26pm
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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 730766)
Plenty of times, but only after a basket, and that's nothing that requires administration, anyway. When there's administration, I've always made sure the thrower-in controlled the ball.
I see it often with no pressure in the BC. I bounce the ball to the thrower, and he just taps it to his teammate in bounds.

But even when there's no admin, the rule is the same for this; nonexistent.

In your play, if A1 had fumbled the ball into a violation, get it back and readminister. Otherwise, play on.

APG Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:36pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 730766)
Plenty of times, but only after a basket, and that's nothing that requires administration, anyway. When there's administration, I've always made sure the thrower-in controlled the ball.
If the thrower purposely taps the ball to a player inbounds, I'd consider that controlled.

Mark Padgett Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:38pm
When I first saw this thread title.....
 
.....I thought it had to do with my signature. :p

Camron Rust Wed Feb 16, 2011 02:10pm
Unless the player hits me, I've got nothing. I presented the ball to him for a throwin and he made a throwin.

BillyMac Wed Feb 16, 2011 06:14pm
Benjamin Franklin ???
 
Bounce when you can, hand when you must.

RookieDude Wed Feb 16, 2011 07:25pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 730780)
If the thrower purposely taps the ball to a player inbounds, I'd consider that controlled.
...you mean like a "controlled tap"?

Play:

A1 attempts a shot...the ball bounces off the rim...A2 "controlls a tap" into backcourt. A3 recovers the ball in backcourt.

Watta ya got?


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