No time outs remaining, buy TO with T-foul?

[NoFussRef]

Originally Posted by mbyron

10-1-7.

Note that the team technical foul is for requesting an excess time-out.

Right. I read through 10-1-7 in an outdated NFHS book. I guess the question that I still have is if during live ball, coach without any TOs remaining REQUESTS a TO and they are assessed an team T-foul (indirect), are they still granted the TO or are their 5 players to remain on court for the 2 T-freethrows and we move right along with the throw-in. ???

[tref]

Grant the t/o no indirect to coach on any Admin Ts.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by NoFussRef

Right. I read through 10-1-7 in an outdated NFHS book. I guess the question that I still have is if during live ball, coach without any TOs remaining REQUESTS a TO and they are assessed an team T-foul (indirect), are they still granted the TO or are their 5 players to remain on court for the 2 T-freethrows and we move right along with the throw-in. ???

They still get the TO.

[NoFussRef]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

They still get the TO.

Thanks for clearing this up. I have always tried to avoid this sitch by clearly communicating to both coaches their remaining TOs or lack thereof.

Had a coach request a TO last night and while they were huddled it was brought to my attention that he did not have a TO left. I had book record T foul as team foul, gave other team 2 shots and the ball, but my partner came to me later and said he thought we should not have allowed the TO just gone with the T-foul and kept going.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by NoFussRef

Thanks for clearing this up. I have always tried to avoid this sitch by clearly communicating to both coaches their remaining TOs or lack thereof.

Had a coach request a TO last night and while they were huddled it was brought to my attention that he did not have a TO left. I had book record T foul as team foul, gave other team 2 shots and the ball, but my partner came to me later and said he thought we should not have allowed the TO just gone with the T-foul and kept going.

Be careful about communicating the TOs to the coach. I tell him when he's out but that's it. I've heard too many horror stories about an official relaying erroneous information only to find out later the coach really didn't have any left.

[APG]

Originally Posted by NoFussRef

Thanks for clearing this up. I have always tried to avoid this sitch by clearly communicating to both coaches their remaining TOs or lack thereof.

Had a coach request a TO last night and while they were huddled it was brought to my attention that he did not have a TO left. I had book record T foul as team foul, gave other team 2 shots and the ball, but my partner came to me later and said he thought we should not have allowed the TO just gone with the T-foul and kept going.

We are required to tell a coach when he has no timeouts remaining.

[APG]

Dang it Snaqwell, this is like the 3rd time today you and I have had a reply at the same time!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

We are required to tell a coach when he has no timeouts remaining.

"We" meaning the NFHS ???

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

"We" meaning the NFHS ???

"We" meaning an official...as you knew already. What's your point?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

"We" meaning an official?

Not all officials. I've worked with guys that insist on telling coaches that they have one timeout left. Not my cup of tea, and not required by the book.

[APG]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

"We" meaning the NFHS ???

Can you not tell what I meant? Is this something different in IAABO land?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Can you not tell what I meant?

Wasn't sure if you were talking about what you do in Austin, or if you were referring to the rule as written in the NFHS rulebook.

[tref]

Originally Posted by NoFussRef

Thanks for clearing this up. I have always tried to avoid this sitch by clearly communicating to both coaches their remaining TOs or lack thereof.

Had a coach request a TO last night and while they were huddled it was brought to my attention that he did not have a TO left. I had book record T foul as team foul, gave other team 2 shots and the ball, but my partner came to me later and said he thought we should not have allowed the TO just gone with the T-foul and kept going.

Actually, we are required to let them know when they are out of t/os.

That guy: DUhhh coach you have 2 fulls & a half *jogs over to the other huddle thinking he's doing something* coach you have 1 full left.

Coach: How many do they have?

That guy: They have 2 fulls & a half sir!

Cant stand working with that guy!! Because when they ask me later, I might say, "IDK sh!t, ask your assistant!"