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26 Year Gap Fri Feb 11, 2011 05:51pm

NFHS Survey time
 
Go to NFHS | National Federation of State High School Associations and look for the survey under winter questionnaires. A chance to have some input with the rules committee and some insight into items they might be considering.

APG Fri Feb 11, 2011 05:57pm

Lots of questions that deal with having to be the fashion police...

I hate being the fashion police.

grunewar Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:26pm

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 729085)
I hate being the fashion police.

I have found I've had to do this much, much less this yr. I actually think they're starting to get it......until they change the rules again of course! :rolleyes:

BillyMac Sat Feb 12, 2011 07:37am

Good Rule Change ...
 
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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 729131)
I actually think they're starting to get it.

I think the rule change regarding the addition of any school color for headbands, and wristbands, made a big difference. Now, I just look for all the same colors. I don't bother to research whether, or not, the color is an official school color. I'll leave that up to the detectives on Law and Order: Special Fashion Unit.

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Jeremy Hohn Sat Feb 12, 2011 01:45pm

BillyMac..that is some funny stuff right there! I don't care who you are!

I hate being the fashion police, but I was waiting for a "running clock over 40 point spread" question and never got it.

Please for the love of all that is holy, give us a shot clock, "mercy rule" or both. These games can get ugly on 2 ends of the spectrum.

Either boring with a team holding the ball, or way out of hand with a team pressing after leading by outrageous margins. These 2 rule changes would help the competitive balance of the games as well as get games finished that are clearly decided.

BillyMac Sat Feb 12, 2011 07:58pm

"Badges? We don't need no stinkin' badges!" ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy Hohn (Post 729323)
I hate being the fashion police.

I do also, however, when my Catholic middle school assigner tells us that we will not get paid if he finds out that we've "passed" on the wrong color undershirt, wrong color wristband, wrong color headband, or jewelry, then one tends to develop a "good eye" for such "Fashion Police" issues.

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bainsey Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:01pm

Here's a more direct link.

No-one likes being the fashion police, but you have to think these rules came from somewhere. The undershirts/wristbands/etc. must have gotten out of hand enough for someone to care.

Adam Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:08pm

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 729439)
Here's a more direct link.

No-one likes being the fashion police, but you have to think these rules came from somewhere. The undershirts/wristbands/etc. must have gotten out of hand enough for someone to care.

I don't mind the undershirts, even the wristbands, etc. The problem I have is some of the rules have been fine tuned into such detail that they're absurd. Regulating the size and color of the wrist band is one thing, but to further regulate the size of the manufacturer's logo? Wow.

Regulating the size and color of a headband is one thing, but to exempt "hair control devices" seems odd given how tightly everything else is regulated.

McMac Sun Feb 13, 2011 07:56pm

Question implications
 
4. Would you be in favor of "having “team control” during a throw-in? Outcome: An illegal screen or any foul by the throw-in team would be considered a team-control foul resulting in a throw-in to the offended team. Currently, free throws could be awarded if a team is in the bonus."

I feel that this rule then would cause unintended consequences on the throw-in. If a team has a throw-in in their FC, A1 (thrower) passes to A2 in the FC, but ball is tipped by A2 into the BC, a BC violation could then be called if A recovers.

Am I applying the rules and possible change correctly? Opinions?

APG Sun Feb 13, 2011 07:59pm

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Originally Posted by McMac (Post 729705)
4. Would you be in favor of "having “team control” during a throw-in? Outcome: An illegal screen or any foul by the throw-in team would be considered a team-control foul resulting in a throw-in to the offended team. Currently, free throws could be awarded if a team is in the bonus."

I feel that this rule then would cause unintended consequences on the throw-in. If a team has a throw-in in their FC, A1 (thrower) passes to A2 in the FC, but ball is tipped by A2 into the BC, a BC violation could then be called if A recovers.

Am I applying the rules and possible change correctly? Opinions?

You would have to make an exception to the rule allowing the throw-in to be thrown into the backcourt regardless of location. All the NFHS would have to do is copy the NCAA rule since they are the same.

McMac Sun Feb 13, 2011 08:06pm

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 729708)
You would have to make an exception to the rule allowing the throw-in to be thrown into the backcourt regardless of location. All the NFHS would have to do is copy the NCAA rule since they are the same.

Would that also take care of the play I described?

I agree that a throw-in from the FC could still be thrown into the BC directly as a person OOB does not have FC or BC status.

APG Sun Feb 13, 2011 08:07pm

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Originally Posted by McMac (Post 729713)
Would that also take care of the play I described?

I agree that a throw-in from the FC could still be thrown into the BC directly as a person OOB does not have FC or BC status.

Your play would not be a backcourt violation.

NCAA Rule
4-3
Art. 5. Regardless of where the throw-in spot is located, the throw-in team may cause the ball to go into the back court.


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