AP Arrow
In a recent MS game, I was administering a AP throw in from the endline. Team A had possession by the arrow. Team B is pressing. A attempts to inbound and ball goes out of bounds on sideline without being touched by either team. I give B possession at the same spot as A's throw in. My partner is T, table side. After B inbounds the ball, I notice that the arrow stayed with A. As I'm going down court past the table next time down, I motion for them to switch the arrow. They looked at me dumbfounded. At the next break in action, I went to the table and asked them to change the arrow to B. The timer said that my partner told them at the time not to switch the arrow. I ask my partner, who says that the arrow doesn't switch because no one touched the ball inbounds. I said that is a throw in violation on A, and therefore ends the throw in, which means the arrow switches. He was adamant, and was the R for this game, and is more experienced than me; so I didn't press the issue (the game was not close and no one was complaining about the arrow). I still think I was right. I couldn't find a case in the book, but to me 9-2-2 seems to back me up. Opinions?? Also is there any instance where the arrow will not switch, other than fouls prior to the throw in is complete?
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The AP arrow switches when the AP throw-in is legally touched or whenever the throw-in team commits a throw-in violation, which they did here. You were right in insisting the arrow be switched.
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Your reasoning is correct but your rule reference is off. It's a combination of 6-4-4, 6-4-5, and 4-42-5.
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Buy your partner a rulebook and give him those four rules...itll be like a scavenger hunt!
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Your ruling was correct, and for the right reason. :)
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[QUOTE=bisonpitcher;728819]Opinions?? QUOTE]
In my opinion, you should have asked the "more experienced R"..."how is it that an experienced official who is designated the R for this game, DOES NOT KNOW THE RULE on a simple play like that?".... i'll leave it up to you whether you ask him on the court or in the locker room...:) |
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Yes. If the defensive team kicks the AP throw-in pass the ball is given back to the offense at a spot closest to where the kicking violation occured. This new throw-in is a result of the defensive violation so the arrow remains unchanged. |
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And this is a play that each and everyone of us will probably have once a year. That means the Spammer did us a favor because it caused us to review this play for the upcoming season.
MTD, Sr. |
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[QUOTE=Scratch85;799277]I didn't notice either. Trusted my partners call. Don't forget to check your lint trap.[/QUOTE]
Can't forget the old lint trap, right Scratch? That ranks right up there with checking the scorebooks.:D |
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