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Jeremy Hohn Tue Feb 08, 2011 04:15pm

The fact that the defender's body went toward the guard and he is responsible for the contact even after the block.

NFHS-Foul
Ncaa Mens-Foul (Unless it is a Big East Crew ;))
NBA-OOB

YooperRef Tue Feb 08, 2011 04:51pm

Two shots..
 
Foul.

bainsey Tue Feb 08, 2011 05:08pm

Rufus nailed it.

These are the kind of fouls some people hate, because they believe the play is over once the ball is away. Sometimes I wish there were a more specific rule for plays like these, to get everyone on the same page.

JRutledge Tue Feb 08, 2011 05:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 727870)
Rufus nailed it.

These are the kind of fouls some people hate, because they believe the play is over once the ball is away. Sometimes I wish there were a more specific rule for plays like these, to get everyone on the same page.

It is real simple. Call what is expected in your area. That is what I am going to do. This is not a foul for me at any level, not with the players I see.

Peace

Loudwhistle2 Tue Feb 08, 2011 06:33pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 727647)
I'm not saying I'd be right, but I'd most likely rule a foul on this play. A defender can't simply run through an airborne shooter just because the try itself is over.

+1 I'll call this a foul any day!

Loudwhistle2 Tue Feb 08, 2011 06:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 727872)
It is real simple. Call what is expected in your area. That is what I am going to do. This is not a foul for me at any level, not with the players I see.

Peace

How about posting a clip of what you would call a foul! You must reff in the Army or for the Navy Seals!!

Blindolbat Tue Feb 08, 2011 09:06pm

Foul any day of the week.

Pantherdreams Tue Feb 08, 2011 09:57pm

Lets see. The ball has been blocked before any contact occurs. Neither player then has an immediate play on a ball that is going to be dead anyway. Contact to not clearly and immediately disadvantage anyone, since the shot has already been blocked and ball is on its way to the third row anyway. I wouldn't say contact like this is going to lead to rough play, . . . I've got no foul.

JugglingReferee Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams (Post 727936)
Lets see. The ball has been blocked before any contact occurs. Neither player then has an immediate play on a ball that is going to be dead anyway. Contact to not clearly and immediately disadvantage anyone, since the shot has already been blocked and ball is on its way to the third row anyway. I wouldn't say contact like this is going to lead to rough play, . . . I've got no foul.

A has a right to not have to land on his head.

Raymond Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:37pm

In my college conferences my supervisors would not want a foul called on this play.

In HS, if I were in position to see the hit to the head I would call a foul. Would not call a foul at either level for the body contact.

Pantherdreams Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:41pm

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 727942)
A has a right to not have to land on his head.

He also has the right to remain silent, right to positive learning environment, and a vast array of others . . . these don't mean that how he lands because of contact (after the ball is on its way out of bounds that doesn't disadvantage him or his team) needs to be called a foul. He could try out for the cheerleading team if how he lands may/may not incur a foul.

JRutledge Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loudwhistle2 (Post 727891)
How about posting a clip of what you would call a foul! You must reff in the Army or for the Navy Seals!!

I do not have to prove anything to you. It is not a foul at the levels I work. If you want to call that, go right ahead. But you will be suspect if you call that where I work and not expect some body contact on blocked shots. Never been reprimanded for not calling this a foul.

Peace

VaTerp Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:37pm

OOB. Black ball.

just another ref Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:39pm

With this much contact it is not a stretch to call a foul even if the contact was after the ball is completely out of play, which it clearly was not in the OP.

ThatOneRef Wed Feb 09, 2011 01:00am

Foul
 
Good block, but i would not argue with anyone if they call it a foul. One of those judgment calls.


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