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bainsey Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:03am

Educating the Fans
 
From today's Bangor Daily News...

Can You Pass This Officials' Test?

26 Year Gap Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:11am

Good article.

Looks like the fan failed miserably based on his comment.

Adam Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:17am

Interesting. #1 and #13 don't give quite enough information, but they are "generally" correct.

Adam Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:19am

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 727592)
Good article.

Looks like the fan failed miserably based on his comment.

Apparently, Maine has a Nevadaref in their midst commenting on newspaper articles.

APG Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:22am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 727595)
Interesting. #1 and #13 don't give quite enough information, but they are "generally" correct.

I agree...some information was missing in some of the questions, but for the purposes of the article, they did their job. Gotta love some of the comments to the article too haha.

bainsey Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:52am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 727596)
Apparently, Maine has a Nevadaref in their midst commenting on newspaper articles.

Are you and Gap refering to JoeSchmoe? If so, there's an ulterior motive for that comment.

Long story short: Bangor is getting a new arena with money raised from a local racino. The city council approved it, but the author collected signatures so that the citizens could vote in it.

Nice to see Snaqs checking in with a comment on our local front!

Adam Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:56am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 727620)
Are you and Gap refering to JoeSchmoe? If so, there's an ulterior motive for that comment.

Long story short: Bangor is getting a new arena with money raised from a local racino. The city council approved it, but the author collected signatures so that the citizens could vote in it.

Nice to see Snaqs checking in with a comment on our local front!

All far and above my understanding, I was just noting his reference to an old referee.

KCRC Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:57am

I'm confused
 
In addition to the problem questions mentioned above, what is the difference between questions #6 and #11? Evidently "retrieves it" is not the same as "picks it up".

Also, the way I read the first part of question #3, A2 touched the ball while out of bounds. It would have been better to say "Player A2 jumps from the playing court toward the out of bounds in his frontcourt and taps the ball into his frontcourt before landing out of bounds, then....." Based on the answer, I think that is how we are to read the question.

I like the idea of trying to educate fans and debunk myths, but I fear the wording of several of the questions only adds to the confusion. Oh well!

bainsey Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:13am

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Originally Posted by KCRC (Post 727627)
In addition to the problem questions mentioned above, what is the difference between questions #6 and #11? Evidently "retrieves it" is not the same as "picks it up".

6: Fumble-dribble-fumble. Legal.
11: Dribble-fumble-dribble. Illegal.

Maineac Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:52am

So bainsey if they fail Cim's test, do they then forfeit their "rights" to piss and moan at the upcoming tournaments? BTW, I'm going to list Nostrajimus as a "fail."

just another ref Tue Feb 08, 2011 01:03pm

3. Player A2 jumps out of bounds in his frontcourt on the endline and taps the ball into his frontcourt, then steps in bounds and picks the ball up without any other player touching the ball. Official rules violation. Correct?

If he jumps out of bounds and taps the ball, it is a violation. But I guess we know what he meant.

bainsey Tue Feb 08, 2011 01:05pm

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Originally Posted by Maineac (Post 727675)
So bainsey if they fail Cim's test, do they then forfeit their "rights" to piss and moan at the upcoming tournaments? "

Cim should have closed with that sentence!

It's like the guy sitting near me at this past weekend's UMBC/Maine game, berating stripes, then turning to me asking, "What's the rule on that?"

NoFussRef Tue Feb 08, 2011 01:33pm

So I missed questions #2 and #15. Good to go on the rest.

Help me out on #2.
2. Team A has three subs enter the court and their team captain asks for a lineup. Official denies request. Correct?

In a youth game, especially with any mods on no-zone defense I always line em up or ask if everyone knows who they are guarding before inbounding. However if I ran into this in a Quad-A or HS game I would have failed it.

Can anyone cite (NFHS) where it says official must grant a team the opportunity to match up after subs come in?


I decided to through #15 out the window because it appears to be something the School or the League has the control over. If coach gets 2 directs and a ticket to ride I don't have any care in the world as to what the AD does with him later.

15. For the coach in question 14, (2 T-fouls and ejected), the athletic director decides the coach won’t do the next scheduled game. Correct?

Is this something the officials are supposed to be involved with?

mbyron Tue Feb 08, 2011 01:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoFussRef (Post 727728)
Can anyone cite (NFHS) where it says official must grant a team the opportunity to match up after subs come in?

3-3-1e

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoFussRef (Post 727728)
15. For the coach in question 14, (2 T-fouls and ejected), the athletic director decides the coach won’t do the next scheduled game. Correct?

Is this something the officials are supposed to be involved with?

Generally, no, that's up to the state. But I don't know of a state that leaves the "decision" up to the AD.

Adam Tue Feb 08, 2011 01:40pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 727731)
Generally, no, that's up to the state. But I don't know of a state that leaves the "decision" up to the AD.

The state of Maine may have a rule that automatically suspends a coach. Otherwise, it would be up to the AD (he could extend it).


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