What are "we" telling coaches?

[Rock Chalk]

I never use the word set when talking about charge/block, i only use LGP. And yes, they are telling me they are being told by other officials that players are set or not.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Rock Chalk

I never use the word set when talking about charge/block, i only use LGP. And yes, they are telling me they are being told by other officials that players are set or not.

Then believe them. That is your choice. But I do not believe most of what comes out of their coach's mouths as I have asked them specifically and when you talk to the official there is a different story. Life is about choices man.

Peace

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

But I do not believe most of what comes out of their coach's mouths as I have asked them specifically and when you talk to the official there is a different story.

+1

And that is why you should always get both sides, folks.

[Adam]

what they've been told and what they've heard are often two separate things.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Rock Chalk

I never use the word set when talking about charge/block, i only use LGP. And yes, they are telling me they are being told by other officials that players are set or not.

Coaches lie, especially about what another officials supposedly told them.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by badnewsref

coaches lie, especially about what another officials supposedly told them.

+1.....

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by Rock Chalk

I never use the word set when talking about charge/block, i only use LGP. And yes, they are telling me they are being told by other officials that players are set or not.

+1. As noted previously, this erroneous information has been passed on to a coaching staff I am familiar with. Along with all sorts of interesting "interpretations".

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Judtech

+1. As noted previously, this erroneous information has been passed on to a coaching staff I am familiar with. Along with all sorts of interesting "interpretations".

I don't question the questionable interpretations that get passed to coaches over the years. I do, however, question his statement that he's "never" heard about LGP.

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I don't question the questionable interpretations that get passed to coaches over the years. I do, however, question his statement that he's "never" heard about LGP.

I will go with that. But I also have heard OFFICIALS say they have never heard of it either!! Honestly, you should see some of the looks the Mrs gets when she asks "Why did you think she was not in LGP?"

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by Judtech

I will go with that. But I also have heard OFFICIALS say they have never heard of it either!! Honestly, you should see some of the looks the Mrs gets when she asks "Why did you think she was not in LGP?"

This is at least somewhat true. I hear fellow officials talk about "over the back", "reaching", and "He wasn't set" all the time. I also see other officials move all the players behind the division line during technical FTs, among other things.

[Rock Chalk]

Originally Posted by zm1283

This is at least somewhat true. I hear fellow officials talk about "over the back", "reaching", and "He wasn't set" all the time. I also see other officials move all the players behind the division line during technical FTs, among other things.

This is what I am talking about.

[SAK]

Watching televised basketball is a great aid to help pick up what advantage/disadvantage looks like. However, there is a difference between watching the TV and listening to the commentators. Even the best commentators have very limited knowledge of the rules. And sometimes a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, especially when those with a little knowledge try to pass themselves off as experts. Don't get me wrong, I like watching games that Dick Vitale is working but he knows very little about basketball rules. Too may are listening to what he as to say as if it comes out of the rule books. Coaches need to realize that in a high school game the officials have undergone comprehensive rules studies and have likely been to several basketball camps to improve on their craft. Stop asking for the "over the back" and the "reach" calls as these are simply not fouls. Also realize that a foul requires contact however, not all contact is a foul.

Sorry, just had to vent.

Also, where did the notion come from that when shooting a technical foul all players (non shooting) need to be behind the division line?

[rockyroad]

Doing the scorebook for my sons' HS team the last two years, I can not even begin to count the number of times I have heard officials tell a coach "He wasn't set" when explaining why they called a block. I cringe every time I hear it.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Judtech

I will go with that. But I also have heard OFFICIALS say they have never heard of it either!! Honestly, you should see some of the looks the Mrs gets when she asks "Why did you think she was not in LGP?"

Those officials are just wondering what you're wife is talking about, since no coach knows what legal guarding position is.

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Those officials are just wondering what you're wife is talking about, since no coach knows what legal guarding position is.

Well played, well played. I can neither confirm nor deny where she got the idea to use that type of verbiage.