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rainmaker Wed Nov 06, 2002 03:55pm

In June, my little ditty bag that I take to games got stolen out of my car. In it were my NFHS rule books -- all four. This year, instead of the Officials' Manual (which I could use), we get the Handbook. I think I'll send for a new Officials' Manual. But my real question is, What good is the Handbook for a ref? I can't see much in it, but maybe I'm missing something.

Larks Wed Nov 06, 2002 04:14pm

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Originally posted by rainmaker
In June, my little ditty bag that I take to games got stolen out of my car. In it were my NFHS rule books -- all four. This year, instead of the Officials' Manual (which I could use), we get the Handbook. I think I'll send for a new Officials' Manual. But my real question is, What good is the Handbook for a ref? I can't see much in it, but maybe I'm missing something.
I file my hand book along with that big orange book that the state of Ohio sends me in the desk at home. I think the Handbook has a "lot of good back ground info". Probably a good read on a rainy Sunday when there is no football and the only TV is the 6432nd showing of Steel Magnolias! Seriously, do they show that movie somewhere in America every week?

Ive been keeping my case book, rule book and officials manual in my planner until the season starts...then into the bag they go.

Larks
VIT

Camron Rust Wed Nov 06, 2002 04:41pm

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Originally posted by rainmaker
In June, my little ditty bag that I take to games got stolen out of my car. In it were my NFHS rule books -- all four. This year, instead of the Officials' Manual (which I could use), we get the Handbook. I think I'll send for a new Officials' Manual. But my real question is, What good is the Handbook for a ref? I can't see much in it, but maybe I'm missing something.
I've read it...not often...but once or twice. It has some interesting history of the game. I can add some understanding of how some rules came to be.

I don't think we really need a new one every two years.

mick Wed Nov 06, 2002 05:24pm

Hmmmm.
 
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Originally posted by rainmaker
In June, my little ditty bag that I take to games got stolen out of my car. In it were my NFHS rule books -- all four. This year, instead of the Officials' Manual (which I could use), we get the Handbook. I think I'll send for a new Officials' Manual. But my real question is, What good is the Handbook for a ref? I can't see much in it, but maybe I'm missing something.
Jewel,
I have never seen one.
mick

AK ref SE Wed Nov 06, 2002 05:39pm

I read the handbook the first year I officiated, and it was helpful that first year. But I have not ordered it since.

AK ref SE

APHP Wed Nov 06, 2002 05:58pm

THE first 30 pages deal with the history of the game. Part II (from page 31-58) deal with Duties of Coaches, Captains, Players & Substitutions with case plays. Part III (page 58-86) deals rules 1-10 with case plays and do's and don't concerning the rules...I would suggest you buy one once and it will good reading. Wait several years before buying another one. Even though I buy the new one each time it comes out, it really is not necessary to buy on every year. It changes very litte from year to year...If you don't have one, buy one and it will be good for several years.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Wed Nov 06, 2002 09:43pm

I get the Handbook everytime it is published. The Handbook has much valuable information in it. (See my postings in True/False.) While the Rules Book is the foundation, the Casebook, Simplified and Illustrated, Officials Handbook, and Basketball Handbook support the Rules Book.

JRutledge Wed Nov 06, 2002 09:47pm

That bad?
 
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Originally posted by Larks


Probably a good read on a rainy Sunday when there is no football and the only TV is the 6432nd showing of Steel Magnolias! Seriously, do they show that movie somewhere in America every week?

You have too much time on your hands. :)

Side note about the movie Steel Magnolias. I spend a summer in the town where they filmed the movie, Nacatastish (spelled it wrong), Louisiana. Whatever the town that Northwestern Lousiana State is located. Joe Dumars is from there. I spent the summer there the year he won the MVP in the NBA Finals against the Lakers. Nice little town. The movie wasn't that bad. But I guess if I would see it over and over, it might get to me.

Peace

Z REF Thu Nov 07, 2002 07:44am

Natchitoches...pronounced nack-i-toe-shush

LarryS Thu Nov 07, 2002 08:06am

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Originally posted by Z REF
Natchitoches...pronounced nack-i-toe-shush
Actually, that is almost how most of the locals pronounce the town in Texas (spelled the same way) nack-i-doe-shush. Most of the locals I have encountered in Louisiana pronounce it nack-i-tush. Both very nice little towns.

Traditionally, the one in LA has the better athletic teams but the one in TX has the better party college...or so I have been told. :D

stripes Thu Nov 07, 2002 10:32am

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Originally posted by JRutledge
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Originally posted by Larks


Probably a good read on a rainy Sunday when there is no football and the only TV is the 6432nd showing of Steel Magnolias! Seriously, do they show that movie somewhere in America every week?

You have too much time on your hands. :)

Side note about the movie Steel Magnolias. I spend a summer in the town where they filmed the movie, Nacatastish (spelled it wrong), Louisiana. Whatever the town that Northwestern Lousiana State is located. Joe Dumars is from there. I spent the summer there the year he won the MVP in the NBA Finals against the Lakers. Nice little town. The movie wasn't that bad. But I guess if I would see it over and over, it might get to me.

Peace

It wasn't that bad??? Come on Jeff, I know you have testosterone running through your veins. That is the worst movie ever made. The "southern accents" alone about drove me over the edge. A college roommate of mine went to HS with Julia Roberts (in Georgia no less) and her accent is the worst of the bunch.

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Originally posted by LarryS
Most of the locals I have encountered in Louisiana pronounce it nack-i-tush.

This is how I have heard it from my friend who was born and raised there.

ChuckElias Thu Nov 07, 2002 10:52am

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Originally posted by stripes
[Steel Magnolias] is the worst movie ever made.
Respectfully, until (or unless) you've seen "Nothing But Trouble", starring Chevy Chase, Demi Moore, and Dan Akroyd, you are simply not qualified to give opinions on "the worst movie ever made". I wish I could find that little animation of the guy puking. That's how I felt after that movie. Not one single laugh in almost 2 hours.

Chuck

rainmaker Thu Nov 07, 2002 01:15pm

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by stripes
[Steel Magnolias] is the worst movie ever made.
Respectfully, until (or unless) you've seen "Nothing But Trouble", starring Chevy Chase, Demi Moore, and Dan Akroyd, you are simply not qualified to give opinions on "the worst movie ever made". I wish I could find that little animation of the guy puking. That's how I felt after that movie. Not one single laugh in almost 2 hours.

Chuck

Why didn't you quit after the first 20 minutes??

Steel Magnolias was too "chick" even for me but what I hated most about the movie was the completely fictionalized view of diabetes. I am quite familiar with the disease up close and personal (sister, husband, son, sister-in-law) and I can tell you it ain't nuttin like that movie!!

ChuckElias Thu Nov 07, 2002 01:19pm

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Originally posted by rainmaker
Why didn't you quit after the first 20 minutes??
Because with Chevy Chase and Dan Akroyd, I thought it just had to get better. I mean, it couldn't really be that bad for the whole movie, could it?!?! But sure enough, it was. Plus, I hate giving up on a movie that I've already paid for.

Fletch_irwin_m said he liked it, but I can't see how he could possibly have enjoyed it.

Chuck

rainmaker Thu Nov 07, 2002 01:30pm

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
Fletch_irwin_m said he liked it, but I can't see how he could possibly have enjoyed it.
You just never know what hidden dark inner recesses are lurking inside the people you meet on the Internet!!

Tim Roden Thu Nov 07, 2002 02:05pm

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Originally posted by LarryS
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Originally posted by Z REF
Natchitoches...pronounced nack-i-toe-shush
Actually, that is almost how most of the locals pronounce the town in Texas (spelled the same way) nack-i-doe-shush. Most of the locals I have encountered in Louisiana pronounce it nack-i-tush. Both very nice little towns.

Traditionally, the one in LA has the better athletic teams but the one in TX has the better party college...or so I have been told. :D

Ok, from an East Texan. I have been to both SFA in (Nak-a-do-ches) Texas, and Northwestern in (Nak-a-tish) LA. I ran a better track meet in Texas and a better Cross-country meet in LA. Both have good football and basketball. SFA has been to the NCAA womans playoff. I don't know about the party life but I know excellent scholars at SFA. My sister-in-law is working on her masters there.

ChuckElias Thu Nov 07, 2002 02:21pm

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Originally posted by rainmaker
You just never know what hidden dark inner recesses are lurking inside the people you meet on the Internet!!
November 7, 2003
Rainyville, Oregon


The silence in this small community is surreal. The implications have not even begun to be considered. Silly string, M & M's, and a trail of whipped cream are horrifying reminders of the carnage. A Fox 40 whistle was pulled out of the debris. Regular posters to the web site had only this to say: "Juulie seemed like such a normal person. We never dreamed that she was capable of this. But now that I think about it, she did have these hidden dark inner recesses lurking inside her. Do you think that should've tipped us off?"

Sorry. Where are Padgett's meds? :D

Chuck


Dan_ref Thu Nov 07, 2002 02:35pm

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by stripes
[Steel Magnolias] is the worst movie ever made.
Respectfully, until (or unless) you've seen "Nothing But Trouble", starring Chevy Chase, Demi Moore, and Dan Akroyd, you are simply not qualified to give opinions on "the worst movie ever made". I wish I could find that little animation of the guy puking. That's how I felt after that movie. Not one single laugh in almost 2 hours.

Chuck

I see that Chuck has transformed this thread into an
episode of "Law & Order", or maybe "Silence of the Lambs 3"
but I'm gonna say until you've seen the Jackass movie you
have absolutely no way of knowing what a bad movie is.
For me to tell you how bad is this movie is like trying to
describe the color blue to a blind person, or explain what
an oboe sounds like to one who is deaf. Bad. Bad. Bad.
Bad in a very bad way. Why was I there? Part of the joys
of fatherhood, to accompany a 16 year old son to bad, bad,
bad movies. My older son is planning on seeing it with his
gf. I felt compelled to advise him to not take her along,
if he wants to keep her as his gf. Bad, bad, bad movie.

Bad.

mick Thu Nov 07, 2002 03:07pm

A typical father thing.
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dan_ref
Quote:

... My older son is planning on seeing it with his
gf. I felt compelled to advise him to not take her along,
if he wants to keep her as his gf. Bad, bad, bad movie.

Bad.

"You just don't understand kids !" - Quoth 10 year-old Matt Chambers (circa 1988)

ChuckElias Thu Nov 07, 2002 03:39pm

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Originally posted by Dan_ref
I see that Chuck has transformed this thread into "Silence of the Lambs 3"
Wasn't that called "Red Dragon"? I heard it did pretty well. I was actually going for more of a "Twin Peaks" absurdity. Oh well.

Jackass loses points as worst movie ever b/c of its box office success. I'll grant you that it's bad, but it at least appeals to a certain segment of brain-damaged MTV-loving Beavis & Butthead fandom. I was the biggest Chevy Chase fan ever (I even liked his late night show on Fox), but "Nothing But Trouble" had no appeal at all to it.

Should I rent "Jackass" when it becomes available just to see the depths?

Chuck

Dan_ref Thu Nov 07, 2002 03:54pm

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
I see that Chuck has transformed this thread into "Silence of the Lambs 3"
Wasn't that called "Red Dragon"? I heard it did pretty well. I was actually going for more of a "Twin Peaks" absurdity. Oh well.


Twin Peaks! That's it, I couldn't remember the name.

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Should I rent "Jackass" when it becomes available just to see the depths?

Chuck
No. Not even as an example of badness does this thing have value. And by renting it you'll only get them to make more.

Ya gotta trust me on this one. This is one bad movie.

dblref Fri Nov 08, 2002 06:42am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by rainmaker
Why didn't you quit after the first 20 minutes??
Because with Chevy Chase and Dan Akroyd, I thought it just had to get better. I mean, it couldn't really be that bad for the whole movie, could it?!?! But sure enough, it was. Plus, I hate giving up on a movie that I've already paid for.

Fletch_irwin_m said he liked it, but I can't see how he could possibly have enjoyed it.

Chuck

Chuck: You weren't supposed to laugh. The actors thought it was a drama rather than a comedy. :D

ChuckElias Fri Nov 08, 2002 09:44am

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Originally posted by dblref
Chuck: You weren't supposed to laugh. The actors thought it was a drama rather than a comedy. :D

You know, that reminds me of another of my favorite SNL moments. It was from the mid 80's, when Dennis Miller was doing the news, I think. One of the show's other regulars came on the Update. She was there to do a movie review and said something like:

I saw Out of Africa this week. . . And I'm sorry, but this movie just was not funny at all!

She then proceded to mention all the sad things that happen to the pair of lovers and pronounces the movie a miserable flop. It was very funny.

Chuck

rainmaker Sat Nov 09, 2002 12:33am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by dblref
Chuck: You weren't supposed to laugh. The actors thought it was a drama rather than a comedy. :D

You know, that reminds me of another of my favorite SNL moments. It was from the mid 80's, when Dennis Miller was doing the news, I think. One of the show's other regulars came on the Update. She was there to do a movie review and said something like:

I saw Out of Africa this week. . . And I'm sorry, but this movie just was not funny at all!

She then proceded to mention all the sad things that happen to the pair of lovers and pronounces the movie a miserable flop. It was very funny.

Chuck

ironic that it comes up now. Out of Africa is our book-group book this month. I just checked out the movie yesterday. I"ll let you know if I find any funny parts!


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