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Adam Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:40pm

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 726754)
LOL You think I would have posted this here if I were?

As 26 mentioned, this is a different part of the state. Different board. (Although I have no idea what "accents" he's talking about. I didn't hear any. :D)

I have two questions, though:

*I believe the rules say that an official must be positive that a shot is released too late to call off a try. That is, if you're not sure whether a shot is released before the horn, it's still a try. If this is the case, does this mentality also apply to fouls before/after the buzzer?

*We talked about intentional and flagrant fouls after the buzzer. What about technical fouls? If you have dead ball contact after the buzzer, is it possible to call such contact, and shoot free throws at the beginning of the next period?

Yes, you could. But it would have to be inentional or flagrant.

APG Sun Feb 06, 2011 01:01pm

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 726754)
*We talked about intentional and flagrant fouls after the buzzer. What about technical fouls? If you have dead ball contact after the buzzer, is it possible to call such contact, and shoot free throws at the beginning of the next period?

By rule the only foul we can call for dead ball contact is an intentional technical foul or flagrant technical foul (save the airborne shooter exception).

26 Year Gap Sun Feb 06, 2011 01:05pm

The reason for the whistle also serves the purpose to the players to stop. It decreases the chances for something to occur after the period has ended. And once a try is in the air and is obviously going to be unsuccessful and the horn has sounded [or light has flashed if that is being used], a whistle from the official responsible for the last shot will help define what occurred when.

Terrapins Fan Sun Feb 06, 2011 02:01pm

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Originally Posted by jearef (Post 726711)

I realize it's a lot different when we are on the floor instead of watching a video, but I honestly didn't think that play was particularly close. Seemed to me that the horn clearly sounded prior to the contact. Clearly a foul, but after the horn. Tough situation for the crew.

+1 . Horn sounded 1st.

JRutledge Sun Feb 06, 2011 02:39pm

I am trying to figure out why the calling official allowed the coach to be in his face at half court. Despite the call, that is not going on with me. Get that coach back in his box.

Secondly I do not understand why someone did not tell him that play was over. Now maybe they did, but that conversation would have gone on longer. I also do not like the "arms around each other" to have a discussion. Sit next to each other and talk. This makes it look like you cannot have the conversation on without the support of your officials as you screwed up. It looks really bad considering what this official just called.

And last but not least, "beat the tape." You know the game is on tape. If it is not obvious that the foul took place before the whistle, go to overtime. This was not close.

Lord knows I have been in enough bad situations, but this will be used as a training tape as what not to do in my fall class for sure. So many teaching points in this video for sure.

Peace

bob jenkins Sun Feb 06, 2011 02:58pm

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 726754)
*I believe the rules say that an official must be positive that a shot is released too late to call off a try. That is, if you're not sure whether a shot is released before the horn, it's still a try. If this is the case, does this mentality also apply to fouls before/after the buzzer?

If you'll look up the rule you cite on your assumption, you'll find the answer to the question.

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*We talked about intentional and flagrant fouls after the buzzer. What about technical fouls? If you have dead ball contact after the buzzer, is it possible to call such contact, and shoot free throws at the beginning of the next period?
Can't you always have a T until the officials' jurisdiction has ended?


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