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Thu Apr 06, 2000, 11:00am
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Ball is hit out of bounds. Ref tells player to hold his spot. Upon inbounding the ball player takes steps to inbound ball. Is this traveling?
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Thu Apr 06, 2000, 11:42am
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Travel rules do not apply to a spot throw in. A player can move all he wants within a 3 ft wide area and all the way back to the wall. He cannot touch in bounds before releasing the throw in. This was a Point of Emphesis last year.
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Thu Apr 06, 2000, 01:47pm
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Tim,
Are you sure about that. Every game I did this year on a throw in (except after a basket/foul shot), I or the other ref (when needed) told the inbounder to hold his/her spot. I also saw it called at least twice in the NCAA Tourney (NC violated in there last game).
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Thu Apr 06, 2000, 02:33pm
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Three foot is the rule C. I think three feet gives them about one good step either direction (depending on their size) after the spot is established. Any more than that and I feel it is over 3 ft. and a violation. I think this is the most misunderstood rule for fans and coaches after 3 seconds and backcourt.
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Thu Apr 06, 2000, 02:57pm
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quote: On the call that you saw with NC, Peppers ran the baseline after a traveling violation on FL. He left the designated spot by a good 15 feet. I don't have my rule book handy, but I seem to recall that the rule on a designated spot throw in is that at least one foot must remain over the spot.
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Thu Apr 06, 2000, 04:07pm
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NF Rules Rule 4, Section 41, Article 6 "The designated throw-in spot is 3 feet wide with no depth limitations and is established by the official prior to putting the ball at the thrower's disposal. Note: The thrower must keep one foot on or over the spot until the ball is released. Pivot foot restrictions and the traveling rule are not in effect for a throw-in."
College Rules Rule 7, Section 6 " ...Until the passed ball has crossed the plane of the boundary (1) the thrower shall not leave the designated throw-in spot (i.e. the thrower-in must have at least one foot on or over the three foot designated spot when moving laterally). The thrower-in may jump vertically during the throw in or move forward without stepping onto the court or move directly back from the boundary line as far as the player desires..."
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Thu Apr 06, 2000, 05:18pm
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Don't forget, the illegal movement is NOT travelling! It is a throw-in violation.
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Fri Apr 07, 2000, 02:30pm
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How did this ever get classified as a travel? Was that the call years ago, or did some official not know what siganl to use?
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Fri Apr 07, 2000, 04:41pm
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Thanks guy's for all of the info.
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Sat Apr 08, 2000, 06:53pm
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quote: It was never a travel call to my knowledge. I suspect it is simply the "default" call for many officials, because it looks like a travel that occurs on the court. In some folks' minds, since the player "can't move" from his spot, it MUST be a travel if he does move. I cringe when I see veteran officials signal travelling for this one, but it continues to happen. [This message has been edited by Todd VandenAkker (edited April 08, 2000).]
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Sat Apr 08, 2000, 10:02pm
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quote: There was a throw-in violation of this type during the men's NCAA Final Four. I didn't have the best view (the backboard was in the way on the TV), but I thought I saw the official give the travel signal. Can anyone shed light on this?
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Mon Apr 10, 2000, 09:06am
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poor mechanics.
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