The Official Forum

The Official Forum (https://forum.officiating.com/)
-   Basketball (https://forum.officiating.com/basketball/)
-   -   Going to the 'toes'. (https://forum.officiating.com/basketball/61676-going-toes.html)

bseybs32 Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:18am

Going to the 'toes'.
 
When a player has a pivot foot established and, in a failed attempt to pass the ball, rolls onto the 'point' of the shoe, (the tip toes), shouldn't this be called a travel violation?

I have seen this called as a violation and let go.

Thank you for the help.

bob jenkins Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:27am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bseybs32 (Post 725639)
When a player has a pivot foot established and, in a failed attempt to pass the ball, rolls onto the 'point' of the shoe, (the tip toes), shouldn't this be called a travel violation?

Why should it? I don't see "the pivot foot moving in excess of prescribed limitations" (or whatever the rule book wording is).

tref Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:29am

Actually, the pivot may be lifted (how else can players attempt a jump shot or layup) its not a violation until it returns to the floor, before releasing the ball.
In your sitch it never came off the floor.

chartrusepengui Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:30am

Did the entire foot ever actaully leave the playing surface?

bseybs32 Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:39am

I didn't descibe a player shooting. I described the player attempting a pass.

So no violation as long as the pivot foot is maintained within it limits.

Once the foot is drug, we have a violaion.

Thanks again, just want to get it correct.

Rex Ryan Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:40am

The title of this thread is grossly misleading. :mad:

mbyron Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:52am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bseybs32 (Post 725654)
I didn't descibe a player shooting. I described the player attempting a pass.

So no violation as long as the pivot foot is maintained within it limits.

Once the foot is drug, we have a violaion.

Thanks again, just want to get it correct.

When a player is passing, "the pivot foot may be lifted, but not returned to the floor, before the ball is released on a pass or try for goal." So shooting and passing have the same limit; dribbling is different.

Dragging the pivot foot constitutes "moving it in excess of prescribed limits."

Rule 4-44.

Rich Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:09am

Exactly. If the pivot foot drags before a pass/shot, it's a travel for moving it beyond the prescribed limits. If the pivot foot is lifted, it's not a travel unless it's returned to the floor before the pass/shot.

bseybs32 Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:15am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rex Ryan (Post 725655)
The title of this thread is grossly misleading. :mad:

How is it misleading?:confused:

Welpe Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:28am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bseybs32 (Post 725673)
How is it misleading?:confused:

I'd wager he is a spammer, so I wouldn't pay him any mind.

Rich Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:29am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 725681)
I'd wager he is a spammer, so I wouldn't pay him any mind.

I'd wager it's a regular making a Rex Ryan / foot fetish joke. Not me.

bseybs32 Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:38am

got ya.

Welpe Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:43am

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 725682)
I'd wager it's a regular making a Rex Ryan / foot fetish joke. Not me.

Wow, had to Google that one as I wasn't even aware of it.

bob jenkins Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:02pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 725681)
I'd wager he is a spammer, so I wouldn't pay him any mind.

I think it one of our regulars who just used a different name to chyme in on this thread.

Adam Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:03pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 725709)
I think it one of our regulars who just used a different name to chyme in on this thread.

Maybe it's Mark Cuban?


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:05pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1