Going to the 'toes'.
 

When a player has a pivot foot established and, in a failed attempt to pass the ball, rolls onto the 'point' of the shoe, (the tip toes), shouldn't this be called a travel violation?

I have seen this called as a violation and let go.

Thank you for the help.

Why should it? I don't see "the pivot foot moving in excess of prescribed limitations" (or whatever the rule book wording is).

Actually, the pivot may be lifted (how else can players attempt a jump shot or layup) its not a violation until it returns to the floor, before releasing the ball.
In your sitch it never came off the floor.

Did the entire foot ever actaully leave the playing surface?

I didn't descibe a player shooting. I described the player attempting a pass.

So no violation as long as the pivot foot is maintained within it limits.

Once the foot is drug, we have a violaion.

Thanks again, just want to get it correct.

The title of this thread is grossly misleading. :mad:

When a player is passing, "the pivot foot may be lifted, but not returned to the floor, before the ball is released on a pass or try for goal." So shooting and passing have the same limit; dribbling is different.

Dragging the pivot foot constitutes "moving it in excess of prescribed limits."

Rule 4-44.

Exactly. If the pivot foot drags before a pass/shot, it's a travel for moving it beyond the prescribed limits. If the pivot foot is lifted, it's not a travel unless it's returned to the floor before the pass/shot.

How is it misleading?:confused:

I'd wager he is a spammer, so I wouldn't pay him any mind.

I'd wager it's a regular making a Rex Ryan / foot fetish joke. Not me.

got ya.

Wow, had to Google that one as I wasn't even aware of it.

I think it one of our regulars who just used a different name to chyme in on this thread.

Maybe it's Mark Cuban?

haha, well played bob j.

welpe, surprised you never heard that rex ryan story...but maybe it wasn't front page news outside of new york and boston?

what's the mark cuban reference?

There was a poster about a year ago that said they were Mark Cuban and was complaining about officiating and came here to do it. The person actually said they were Mark Cuban and it had some people wondering if it was him or just someone pulling everyone's leg.

Peace

Many will disagree here, but I want to take a moment to applaud the near perfect use of the novelty user ID. Well played, sir.

Between basketball, the holidays and my wife being ~8 months pregnant, I've been pretty out of the loop. ;)

+1

Welpe, if she's 8 mos pregnant, I'm quite sure you've been out of the loop.

We have a newborn now, so I am definitely out of the loop. :D

Congratulations, Dad!

Congratulations!

So how many games are you going to miss? haha.

I missed a few weeks worth but I've been squeezing some in when I can. That is until "SNOWMAGEDDON 2011" hit Texas. :eek:

Congrats, Dad! Just don't think the rest of us will be up in the middle of the night to answer your posts, just because you are... :D

I've never heard it referred to as "the loop."