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APG Thu Feb 03, 2011 02:40pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tref (Post 725785)
I will NOT be going strong side tonight!

I actually saw this sitch happen in a 5A boys game:
T opposite table & the L goes strong side, the ball shoots OOB in the corner (side/endline corner) tableside. L asks T for help... T looks at L like "are you kidding me, I'm 80+ feet away from this play." A/P arrow!
Of course it goes OOB in front of the defensive teams bench, who just happened to be down by 20+... not a good look! Pay the 3rd, football has 5.

That's a sacrifice going strong side in two man. As we all know, two person is a matter of sacrifices when we talk about positioning. I'll sacrifice the out of bounds play that doesn't happen too often for being in a better position to officiate.

Adam Thu Feb 03, 2011 03:31pm

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Originally Posted by BayStateRef (Post 725786)
Page 43.

Thanks, I knew it was in there. This is the only complete rotation noted in IAABO mechanics, though. Nothing to do with the lead going strongside.

Adam Thu Feb 03, 2011 03:35pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tref (Post 725785)
I will NOT be going strong side tonight!

I actually saw this sitch happen in a 5A boys game:
T opposite table & the L goes strong side, the ball shoots OOB in the corner (side/endline corner) tableside. L asks T for help... T looks at L like "are you kidding me, I'm 80+ feet away from this play." A/P arrow!
Of course it goes OOB in front of the defensive teams bench, who just happened to be down by 20+... not a good look! Pay the 3rd, football has 5.

My answer pretty much mirror's Rich's. I've had this very play in a FG game.

Now, why you guys are working 2 in a 5A game? That's a whole 'nother story, IMO.

BayStateRef Thu Feb 03, 2011 03:35pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 725828)
Thanks, I knew it was in there. This is the only complete rotation noted in IAABO mechanics, though. Nothing to do with the lead going strongside.

That is my understanding. Since I started working college, it has been a big adjustment working the lead in the 2-person system we use in high school.

BillyMac Thu Feb 03, 2011 04:20pm

Where Are My Keys ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 725745)
Page 24 of the mechanics manual. It says nothing about the trail moving over. Now, I thought I recalled a mechanic that talked about the Trail initiating a full switch with a trap up high on the lead's side; but I can't find it.

Thanks. You could be right. We don't use the trail initiated rotation either.

Adam Thu Feb 03, 2011 04:21pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 725857)
Thanks. You could be right. We don't use the trail initiated rotation either.

I've never used it, either. If I get a 2 man game with an experienced partner, though, I'll pregame it and try it.

26 Year Gap Thu Feb 03, 2011 05:03pm

As a trail, I work the arc, but I don't go over the rainbow. And as lead, if I go ball side, I go back from whence I came in transition.

KJUmp Fri Feb 04, 2011 06:30am

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Originally Posted by rsl (Post 725690)
I've never seen this posted on the board, but it probably has been. It is worth reading what official's manual says about ball side mechanic:

2.3.3 Ball-Side Mechanic:
A. General Provisions:
1. The use of a ball-side mechanic should be thoroughly discussed at the
pregame conference.
2. Ball and player location key the need for movement by the Lead.
3. The Lead should only move ball-side when the Trail is in the frontcourt.

B. Coverage:
1. When the majority of players and the ball are on the Trail’s side of the
floor, below the free-throw line extended, the Lead should close-down
toward the near lane line and may move laterally to ball-side.
2. Playing action may dictate that the lead NOT initiate movement – even
when the ball is on the Trail’s side – such as on a quick shot or a quick
drive to the basket.
3. Movement by the Lead across the lane should be brisk and with purpose.
4. Even while moving across the lane, the Lead must officiate players in
the post (PCA). Lead should not be caught within the key area except
when moving across or just briefly to view a play or drive to the basket
from the Trail side of the court.
5. When the Lead moves across the lane, the Lead’s PCA is extended to include
the area inside the arc. See Diagram 2-20.
6. When the ball moves inside the three-point arc, the Lead is now on-ball
and the trail must extend coverage to assist with the open area on
the opposite side. See Diagram 2-21.
7. If the majority of players or the ball swings back to the opposite side,
the Lead should begin to quickly move back across the lane to cover the play.
See Diagram 2-22.
8. If there is a quick shot or drive to the basket and the Lead is still on the
same side of the court as the Trail, the Lead should close down to the
near lane-line extended and officiate rebounding action.
9. If a transition to the other end of the court occurs when the Lead is ballside,
the Lead must remember to go back to the other side of the court
and into diagonal coverage.

rsi...Thanks for posting this. As a newer official (still struggling with my mechanics as Lead) this is very helpful.
Quick question, is the reference you cite IABBO? My board is not IABBO and follows a "mix" a mechanics.


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