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chseagle Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:25am

crowd rushes court
 
I've been noticing in NCAA Contests that as soon as the final buzzer sounds that the fans are allowed to rush the court.

Why are fans allowed to be more unsporting in NCAA than what is allowed in HS athletics?

The officials have not left the confines of the court, so why is not a T given?

just another ref Mon Jan 31, 2011 01:11am

There is no rule at any level against anyone "rushing the court" after the game is over.

APG Mon Jan 31, 2011 01:33am

Probably because there's no rule about fans rushing the court when the game is over at any level.

Second, no one in their right mind finds this to be unsporting. If an official even thought about calling a T when the game is over, then they would be committing career suicide. If you're able to become an official next year CHS, might I suggest to never, ever make this call.

chseagle Mon Jan 31, 2011 03:28am

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 724054)
There is no rule at any level against anyone "rushing the court" after the game is over.

Actually JAR, here, especially for State Playoffs, no one is to rush the court after a game is over with. But then there's also bicycle barricades & paid crowd control between the fans & the court here for the State Championship games.

mbyron Mon Jan 31, 2011 07:41am

I'd love to see some of these threads receive the correct answer and then have no further posts. :)

stiffler3492 Mon Jan 31, 2011 07:42am

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 724084)
Actually JAR, here, especially for State Playoffs, no one is to rush the court after a game is over with. But then there's also bicycle barricades & paid crowd control between the fans & the court here for the State Championship games.

There's paid crowd control at college games, too. But that won't stop 10,000 drunk college kids from getting what they want.

EDIT: Oh, and at my alma mater, they always made an announcement that nobody is allowed to rush the court...but it happens anyway

Adam Mon Jan 31, 2011 08:50am

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 724084)
Actually JAR, here, especially for State Playoffs, no one is to rush the court after a game is over with. But then there's also bicycle barricades & paid crowd control between the fans & the court here for the State Championship games.

The point being made is, as officials, we have no idea nor do we care to on this one.

Jurassic Referee Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:32am

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 724097)
I'd love to see some of these threads receive the correct answer and then have no further posts. :)

Why?

bainsey Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:39am

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 724048)
Why are fans allowed to be more unsporting in NCAA than what is allowed in HS athletics?

The officials have not left the confines of the court, so why is not a T given?

Do the math.

Thousands of fans vs. a dozen or so security and officiating crew.

Unless there's more business to be had (free throws, et al), save yourself and get off the damn court.

constable Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:46am

Quote:

Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 724048)
I've been noticing in NCAA Contests that as soon as the final buzzer sounds that the fans are allowed to rush the court.

Why are fans allowed to be more unsporting in NCAA than what is allowed in HS athletics?

The officials have not left the confines of the court, so why is not a T given?

How is rushing the court to celebrate unsporting?


A) no rule against it
B) Officials don't care- their job is done
C) no way to stop it. Part of my job involves controlling large amounts of people and the only way you can do that effectively is with a large amount of police and security yourself. It's not worth even trying if you don't have sufficient numbers which I can tell you they most likely don't.

RobbyinTN Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:54am

chaseagle - I haven't been on this forum all that long but lurked for a while before joining. Based on some of the comments you make, I hope you never get the opportunity to officiate a game. From reading your posts I get the idea that the "power" woudl go to your head and you would be giving T's left and right, throwing people out of the gym, ejecting players and coaches, etc.

The game does not need officials like that. I have dealt with table personnel like you and it makes for a LONG night :rolleyes:

constable Mon Jan 31, 2011 03:15pm

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Originally Posted by robbyintn (Post 724148)
chaseagle - i haven't been on this forum all that long but lurked for a while before joining. Based on some of the comments you make, i hope you never get the opportunity to officiate a game. From reading your posts i get the idea that the "power" woudl go to your head and you would be giving t's left and right, throwing people out of the gym, ejecting players and coaches, etc.

The game does not need officials like that. I have dealt with table personnel like you and it makes for a long night :rolleyes:


+1

VaTerp Mon Jan 31, 2011 04:39pm

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Originally Posted by RobbyinTN (Post 724148)
chaseagle - I haven't been on this forum all that long but lurked for a while before joining. Based on some of the comments you make, I hope you never get the opportunity to officiate a game. From reading your posts I get the idea that the "power" woudl go to your head and you would be giving T's left and right, throwing people out of the gym, ejecting players and coaches, etc.

The game does not need officials like that. I have dealt with table personnel like you and it makes for a LONG night :rolleyes:

+2

Chseagle, MANY of your posts seem to focus on the most trivial things that officials, scorers, and others should NEVER worry about.

While reading some of your posts I have had the same thoughts. IE- I hope this guy never becomes a game official because he just does not seem to have the temperment or judgement required to be a good official.

JMHO.

Mark Padgett Mon Jan 31, 2011 05:15pm

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Originally Posted by stiffler3492 (Post 724098)
But that won't stop 10,000 drunk college kids from getting what they want.

I knew a girl who used to say that. :rolleyes:

mj Mon Jan 31, 2011 05:20pm

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Originally Posted by VaTerp (Post 724341)
+2

Chseagle, MANY of your posts seem to focus on the most trivial things that officials, scorers, and others should NEVER worry about.

While reading some of your posts I have had the same thoughts. IE- I hope this guy never becomes a game official because he just does not seem to have the temperment or judgement required to be a good official.

JMHO.

I thought I had chseagle as a scorer in my game on Friday. Midway through the second quarter, I'm buzzed over to the table. Scorer says to me "Number 5's shirt is untucked and he was already warned about it." :eek: Number 5 also happened to be the visiting team's best player...


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