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tref Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:28am

Hands part of the ball
 
Conversing with a veteran official in our post-game last night, we disscussed the following:

4-24-2
It is legal use of hands to reach to block or slap the ball controlled by a dribbler or a player throwing for goal or a player holding it and accidentally hitting the hand of the opponent when it is in contact with the ball.

Since "while passing" was not mentioned, I thought accidentally hitting the hand in a passing situation was a foul... but incidental contact while passing the ball fits the following rule.

10-6-2
A player shall not contact an opponent with his/her hand unless such contact is only with the opponent's hand while it is on the ball and is incidental to an attempt to play the ball.


What says ye? Caseplays are welcomed, thanks!

Adam Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:56am

As long as he's playing the ball, it's legal.

tref Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:59am

Ok, I just find it strange that 4-24-2 mentions every live ball senario with p/c except for passing. Holding the ball could be interpeted as passing the ball, I guess.

Adam Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:01am

Quote:

Originally Posted by tref (Post 721816)
Ok, I just find it strange that 4-24-2 mentions every live ball senario with p/c except for passing. Holding the ball could be interpeted as passing the ball, I guess.

I think so. I can't imagine the rules would allow more protection for a player passing than they do for a shooter.

Amesman Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:02am

This is a tough one to grasp sometimes, esp. for newer officials, particularly when there is a shot and contact on the hand. Suggestions on how to judge this? I once had a partner say, "It needs to be contact on the wrist or lower." But does that not take the "incidental" requirement into account?

Camron Rust Wed Jan 26, 2011 04:40pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tref (Post 721816)
Ok, I just find it strange that 4-24-2 mentions every live ball senario with p/c except for passing. Holding the ball could be interpeted as passing the ball, I guess.

Exactly. They're either holding the ball or they're not holding the ball. And, if on a pass, they're no longer holding the ball, contact on the hand is probably incidental.


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