No, you're not wrong.

Assuming 2 officials:

1. It is his primary, but not an ideal area for him to have.
2. He should be crossing over to get a good look at these plays.
3. It's an area where you should hold your whistle a second before getting the call from T. Give him a chance to make the call, but I'd get them.

In situations like this, presentation is everything...rather than giving your partner a lecture - which I guarantee you is exactly how it came across to him - ask questions. "Partner, what are you seeing on those drives to the basket?" or "Partner, what is the defender doing in the post that I am missing?" Your partner will respond way better to that kind of presentation, as opposed to "You..." followed by anything.

I have learned that it is way easier to get a crew on the same page when I don't act like the teacher lecturing a student.

Probably not. It's called a PRIMARY coverage area, not an EXCLUSIVE coverage area. I always tell a partner that if you see something in my PCA, call it. I'm not territorial.

That said, I still kicked a call recently in my partner's area.

I was the trail, and had a shooting foul. The coach thought it was a clean block ("why didn't HE call it"), and my partner thought it was, too. My partner nicely spoke to me at halftime, with the "trust your partner" message. Indeed, I broke the rule about calling out of your PCA. I wasn't late (I was way too quick), nor was I right.

Still, I appreciated his thoughts. Many partners will simply not say anything, and grumble about behind your back. That doesn't help anyone. I have far more respect for a partner that tries to give constructive criticism.

I usually ask a partner about a play with the exact time and the situation and let them tell me what they saw. Then we talk about the play if that play was a "problem." Usually they say something that makes me satisfied becasue they explain something I did not see or that they had an angle I did not have. Most of all it becomes a conversation, not a lecture or it does not seem as if I am the one trying to see what I missed.

Peace

Yep.

I know this is an old thread, but...

Along the lines of partners giving feedback, I had this happen this week.

After our 3-whistle BV game, we get in the locker room and one of my partners starts a postgame conversation, which is normal. The problem I had with it was that it was that he was the only one doing the talking and he directed it all at me about one play, which I thought was unfair. Not only that, but he accused me of calling in front of him in his area, and used this one play as an example. (He didn't approach it with the "What did you see?" like others have used in this thread)

I was the C, he was the L, and we had a player in the lane shooting a 3-4 footer while moving toward the basket. The defender pushed him from behind and I got the foul. Probably not in my primary by strict interpretation, but definitely in the gray area in the lane, and I had a great angle and look at the play, so I called it. He told me that "At that point in the game we should let #32 play through that" (#32 is a very good player and it was the 4th quarter), and that the play was two feet in front of him. I simply asked if he would have called it a foul in the first quarter, to which he got really defensive. That led to a short argument and voices being raised. (If he didn't want me to respond, he shouldn't have brought it up in the first place)

He did admit on the way home that he handled it the wrong way, and I told him that I don't have a problem discussing plays, but I don't care to get accused of calling out of my area because of one play in the gray area.

Hello stranger!

Old thread, he's still on sabbatical.

This thread is about a year old. ;)

I almost missed that too.

Peace

oops!

This is something you unfortunately will always deal with.

My advice is to be REALLY good on your plays. Don't try to put the same weak calls into the game as your partner. Don't change how you referee.

Coaches will watch the film and see that your partner sucked and you did a good job. And will hopefully then rate accordingly.

As far as what you could have done, it depends on your relationship with the other official. If he is your peer, and you have a good relationship, I would definitely try to engage him by asking things like: "How do you feel the game is going?" "Are there any calls we didn't like?" Hopefully, you can start to have some honest dialog and improve things for the rest of the game.

If this other official is a "bigdog", I wouldn't waste your time. They are usually set in their ways and you don't really have the standing to approach them. So just be the BEST that YOU can be.

No matter how sweet you sounded, not very tactful IMO. How about "Am I letting them bang too much" This gives him a shot of 'fessing up' that he was a little over officious in his calls. If he doesn't bite, you know what kind of second half you're in for.

That said, so what if you hurt his feelings. You expressed your concerns and while you may be off his Christmas card list, he may adjust his calls for 2nd half which is really your goal.

What level? Sounds like JH tourney.

Edit: Sorry, just saw old thread responses