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Old Wed Feb 16, 2011, 01:52am
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No time outs remaining, buy TO with T-foul?
Correct any of this that is incorrect (NFHS)

If team-A has no time outs remaining ("times out remaining" for some of you ) and requests a TO it is a direct T on coach. They are STILL granted the TO but when we return team-B is shooting 2 and get possession.

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Old Wed Feb 16, 2011, 02:06am
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Team technical, not direct on the coach.
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Old Wed Feb 16, 2011, 07:17am
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It's a T, but not direct.
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If a team requests and is granted an excess timeout, then a team technical foul is charged. The penalty for an excessive timeout is assessed when discovered.
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10-1-7.

Note that the team technical foul is for requesting an excess time-out.
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10-1-7.

Note that the team technical foul is for requesting an excess time-out.
Right. I read through 10-1-7 in an outdated NFHS book. I guess the question that I still have is if during live ball, coach without any TOs remaining REQUESTS a TO and they are assessed an team T-foul (indirect), are they still granted the TO or are their 5 players to remain on court for the 2 T-freethrows and we move right along with the throw-in. ???
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Old Wed Feb 16, 2011, 02:44pm
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Grant the t/o no indirect to coach on any Admin Ts.
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Right. I read through 10-1-7 in an outdated NFHS book. I guess the question that I still have is if during live ball, coach without any TOs remaining REQUESTS a TO and they are assessed an team T-foul (indirect), are they still granted the TO or are their 5 players to remain on court for the 2 T-freethrows and we move right along with the throw-in. ???
They still get the TO.
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Old Wed Feb 16, 2011, 03:17pm
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They still get the TO.
Thanks for clearing this up. I have always tried to avoid this sitch by clearly communicating to both coaches their remaining TOs or lack thereof.

Had a coach request a TO last night and while they were huddled it was brought to my attention that he did not have a TO left. I had book record T foul as team foul, gave other team 2 shots and the ball, but my partner came to me later and said he thought we should not have allowed the TO just gone with the T-foul and kept going.
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Thanks for clearing this up. I have always tried to avoid this sitch by clearly communicating to both coaches their remaining TOs or lack thereof.

Had a coach request a TO last night and while they were huddled it was brought to my attention that he did not have a TO left. I had book record T foul as team foul, gave other team 2 shots and the ball, but my partner came to me later and said he thought we should not have allowed the TO just gone with the T-foul and kept going.
Be careful about communicating the TOs to the coach. I tell him when he's out but that's it. I've heard too many horror stories about an official relaying erroneous information only to find out later the coach really didn't have any left.
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Thanks for clearing this up. I have always tried to avoid this sitch by clearly communicating to both coaches their remaining TOs or lack thereof.

Had a coach request a TO last night and while they were huddled it was brought to my attention that he did not have a TO left. I had book record T foul as team foul, gave other team 2 shots and the ball, but my partner came to me later and said he thought we should not have allowed the TO just gone with the T-foul and kept going.
We are required to tell a coach when he has no timeouts remaining.
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Dang it Snaqwell, this is like the 3rd time today you and I have had a reply at the same time!
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Thanks for clearing this up. I have always tried to avoid this sitch by clearly communicating to both coaches their remaining TOs or lack thereof.

Had a coach request a TO last night and while they were huddled it was brought to my attention that he did not have a TO left. I had book record T foul as team foul, gave other team 2 shots and the ball, but my partner came to me later and said he thought we should not have allowed the TO just gone with the T-foul and kept going.
Actually, we are required to let them know when they are out of t/os.

That guy: DUhhh coach you have 2 fulls & a half *jogs over to the other huddle thinking he's doing something* coach you have 1 full left.

Coach: How many do they have?

That guy: They have 2 fulls & a half sir!

Cant stand working with that guy!! Because when they ask me later, I might say, "IDK sh!t, ask your assistant!"
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We are required to tell a coach when he has no timeouts remaining.
"We" meaning the NFHS ???
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"We" meaning the NFHS ???
"We" meaning an official...as you knew already. What's your point?
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