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Rich Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:15am

Biggest HS check?
 
We're a patchwork quilt of conferences and schools when it comes to mileage reimbursements. I could work one night at a school 70 miles from the house with no mileage and work the next night at a school that's closer, but in a conference that pays.

Tonight I worked in a conference with no mileage cap. I knew the check would be fairly big, comparatively speaking, but it was a few cents short of $130. Game fee was $65. So the mileage was just short of the game fee amount.

Last year, I had an AD complain about this to me. Commissioner assigns a crew that's 100 miles away and then the school has to pay. I deflected the complaining, mainly because that's what it takes to get officials to be willing to drive so far. And it's not really my concern. He should complain to the right person.

Next two nights, no mileage at all.

Anyone else get a good mileage reimbursement in your games?

RobbyinTN Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:22am

We don't get mileage here. We get $80 flat fee for a HS varsity game so after you take out mileage expense, etc. it isn't a lot but this is a hobby for me - and the only hobby I have ever had that actually made me a few $.

biggravy Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:45am

We get zip. All ours are doubleheaders. GV/BV is 100 for 3 whistle, 115 for 2.

JugglingReferee Fri Jan 21, 2011 01:30am

A LA near me has a combined population of about 600,000, stretching as far as 75 minute away. Anything in the 2 central cities has no mileage, but everything outside of that area does, in a per km model.

If one lives in a city where mileage is paid, you luck out.

A prolific referee once had a double-header in the city that is 75 minutes away. Because of their remote location, they actually played HS games in the morning in order to secure quality referees. Away he went for a double in the a.m. Game fees totaled $72, and mileage was around that too.

Coming back into town, he stopped in another city along the way and did a 2 more HS games in the afternoon, with full travel money, even though he was just on his way back home from the a.m. games. $72 and about $30. He then did a club game late afternoon (in the same city) but since this was a different user group, was also paid full travel money again. $35 and $30.

He then showed up at the bi-weekly meeting (about 10 minutes late) and was permitted to leave because he had the 2 men's league games that night at a HS near his home. No travel, since it was in the central city. $70 for those games.

In total, he made about $380 for one day's work, thanks to the mileage "double dipping".

Rich Fri Jan 21, 2011 01:59am

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobbyinTN (Post 719760)
We don't get mileage here. We get $80 flat fee for a HS varsity game so after you take out mileage expense, etc. it isn't a lot but this is a hobby for me - and the only hobby I have ever had that actually made me a few $.

I thought TN played GV/BV DH. You get $80 for 1 game or 2?

Freddy Fri Jan 21, 2011 07:28am

A Minnesota Solution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 719757)
Last year, I had an AD complain about this to me. Commissioner assigns a crew that's 100 miles away and then the school has to pay.

Do what JugglingReferee does and report the round trip distance you drive in km's. See what he says then.

Smitty Fri Jan 21, 2011 07:55am

Earlier this season, I worked a single Varsity game ($55) at a rural school that is about 75 miles from home. Game check: $141. Best part - I received the check 3 days after the day of the game. I am still waiting on a check from a holiday tourney where I worked 3 games: $262. I'm getting quite a tour of North Texas this season...but it's paying for itself.

bob jenkins Fri Jan 21, 2011 08:18am

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 719757)
Last year, I had an AD complain about this to me. Commissioner assigns a crew that's 100 miles away and then the school has to pay. I deflected the complaining, mainly because that's what it takes to get officials to be willing to drive so far. And it's not really my concern. He should complain to the right person.

If they don't pay mileage, then they always get "local" officials, and the visitors complain, including this AD (or coach) when his school is the visitors.

Solution? Have the visitors pay the mileage and specify in advance the maximum "crew radius" they will accept.

Adam Fri Jan 21, 2011 08:21am

Best check I've ever had was $128; $84 for two games and the rest for mileage.

Rich Fri Jan 21, 2011 09:21am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 719835)
If they don't pay mileage, then they always get "local" officials, and the visitors complain, including this AD (or coach) when his school is the visitors.

Solution? Have the visitors pay the mileage and specify in advance the maximum "crew radius" they will accept.

Most conferences have a mileage limit. With the exception of the "unlimited" conference, the maximum mileage we get around here is $35.

The problem in these rural areas is that they simply don't have a lot of varsity-level officials in these areas. Some of the JV guys we see (who are, of course, local) are frighteningly bad. Last night I watched about 3 minutes of the JV game -- one guy actually seemed to have pretty good mechanics and I was ready to be pleasantly surprised. Then he called two phantom fouls where I could see at least a foot of daylight between the two players and I suddenly had the urge to go get dressed and stretch.

Judtech Fri Jan 21, 2011 09:32am

Our HS association uses a flat mileage fee when the working agreement goes out to the schools/conferences we service. "Local" schools pay $9 and the further ones pay $27. The money goes to the "R" and if the others in the crew drive the "R" is supposed to divy up the $$. It is sort of sweet if you actually live NEAR one of the outlying schools, b/c then you get a nice check for a school close by!! I think the furhtest commute for the "central point" we use is about 90 minutes, so not too bad.

BEAREF Fri Jan 21, 2011 09:37am

I have one contract this year that includes any mileage and the school is 85 miles one way from my home. The total amount of the contract is $145...$35 of it is for mileage. The best contract I've had is a 20 mile round trip...worked one JV game and received $80.

tref Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:16am

Last year I had $201.06 deposited into my refpay account ($55 game fee + mileage, a room & a meal) for 1 game.

I drove the 80 miles home in under 1.5 hours :D

jdw3018 Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:31am

Here, all schools have gone to a flat fee system - each official gets $100 for a GV/BV doubleheader. Most of my schools then also pay a flat $10 to each official for mileage. So, my regular checks are $110 whether I got 40 miles or 90. (90 is about as far as I go.)

Some of the smaller, more local schools don't pay the $10 mileage.

These are 2-man games, as well.

Im doing some 3-man tonight and tomorrow that I'll get mileage for. Not sure what the game fee is either, but I'm anticipating bigger than usual checks.

ref2coach Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:53am

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 719786)
I thought TN played GV/BV DH. You get $80 for 1 game or 2?


You are correct, $80 is for a GV/BV double, 3 person crew. $50 for single Varsity 3 P.C.

Fee set by TSSAA board of control. Board is school administrators no representation for the referees.:(


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