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mick Wed Oct 23, 2002 01:09pm

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Originally posted by rockyroad
Hey Mick - did the R grant the time-out? Or did he make the coach bring a sub in before granting the time-out??

Time-out first.
But there wasn't any hollerin'. :)

rockyroad Wed Oct 23, 2002 01:17pm

oops...sounds like both of them need to slow down a little to avoid those brain-cramps!

bob jenkins Wed Oct 23, 2002 07:48pm

Re: Stripes
 
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Originally posted by JRutledge
I know in NCAA Women's Basketball, we have to go table side after every call. The NBA does the same, so it can be done in my opinion.

You don't go table side on fouls in backcourt or offensive fouls.

And, you have the option of not going tableside if an adversarial situation exists.

rockyroad Wed Oct 23, 2002 08:33pm

Not to be too picky, but we do go tableside on fouls in the backcourt which result in free throws being shot...

JRutledge Wed Oct 23, 2002 10:57pm

Bob J
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by bob jenkins
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You don't go table side on fouls in backcourt or offensive fouls.

And, you have the option of not going tableside if an adversarial situation exists.
Well I do not have the CCA Manuals for this year yet, so I do not know completely about all the changes. But Barbra Jacobs told us at the NCAA meeting that they want you us to go table side to explain calls that we make to coaches. Yes it might be an option, but they do not want you to make a habit of going away from the coaches. This is an NBA and WNBA mechanic and this is how they want us to operate.

Peace

bob jenkins Thu Oct 24, 2002 06:08pm

Re: Bob J
 
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Originally posted by JRutledge

Well I do not have the CCA Manuals for this year yet, so I do not know completely about all the changes.

I understand.

I was only reacting to your "on all fouls" statement (or whatever it was).

The point is, just like it was incorrect to say "always away from the table" last year (and still is in HS), it's incorrect to say "always table side" this year.

JRutledge Thu Oct 24, 2002 11:20pm

I see your point, but........
 
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Originally posted by bob jenkins
Quote:

Originally posted by JRutledge

Well I do not have the CCA Manuals for this year yet, so I do not know completely about all the changes.

I understand.

I was only reacting to your "on all fouls" statement (or whatever it was).

The point is, just like it was incorrect to say "always away from the table" last year (and still is in HS), it's incorrect to say "always table side" this year.

Well Bob I guess it is just how you look at it. When I am working a College Women's game, I am always going table side. That is how they want you to do it, that is what I am going to do. To me it is not an option. And when I am doing a HS game and a player fouls out, I always go tell the coach their player fouled out. I would rather be next to them when they "go off" then be across the court and have them yelling at me and I do not hear or understand why they are getting upset. If I am next to a coach, my <b>physical presence</b> will alleviate many of these problems. To me if you are always running, you will be precieved as a coward. And like Stripes said, many guys are always trying to get away from coaches when I feel that your standing up and hearing them out would be a better. Many times coaches just want you to listen to them, you cannot listen if you are always going away from them.

Just an opinion.

Peace


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