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zm1283 Wed Jan 19, 2011 02:36pm

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Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 719144)
"Okay, tonight we're going to play the blue line all the way around (I mention that because for the boys' game following the end walls and the fourth row of the bleachers will be out of bounds). Play defense with your feet. Which one of you is the speaking captain? Do any of your players have asthma? Do any of your players were contacts? I live just down the road, but don't worry, I'll be neutral tonight. And girls, don't hang on the rim after you dunk."

Unfortunately I hear this a lot when I'm the U.

Adam Wed Jan 19, 2011 02:41pm

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Originally Posted by BEAREF (Post 719185)
I tell them to remember that it is a game so enjoy the opportunity to have fun and that win or lose the sun will come up tomorrow

Do you break into song?

Eastshire Wed Jan 19, 2011 02:42pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 719194)
Do you break into song?

Nah, he can't hit the high C.

RobbyinTN Wed Jan 19, 2011 02:42pm

After I ask if there are any questions (usually never are) I simply say "OK, let's have a good clean game tonight" and leave it at that.

I avoid wishing any of them good luck or anything.

reffish Wed Jan 19, 2011 02:47pm

I have added to captain's meeting, in addition to the coach's meeting, that I do not want to hear complaining, just questions about any about calls or non-calls. This seems to keep the useless chatter away or down. :) Oh and be nice a la Roadhouse. Heard that from camp in AZ. Works great.

BillyMac Wed Jan 19, 2011 03:01pm

Oldie But Goodie ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 719144)
"Do any of your players were contacts?"

I had forgotten about that one.

Someone should come with a list of things not to say in a pregame captains/coaches meeting. Freddy's given us a good starting point.

Amesman Wed Jan 19, 2011 03:10pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 719214)
I had forgotten about that one.

Someone should come with a list of things not to say in a pregame captains/coaches meeting. Freddy's given us a good starting point.

And, by the way coach, you're still single, right?

reffish Wed Jan 19, 2011 03:12pm

What not to say:
We are gonna call (fill in blank)
Who are my speaking captains? And those that ask this, why? I asked That Guy and he said......well, he didn't have a reason. In the meeting, after asking who are my speaking captains, That Guy said, anyone can talk to us. So why the distinction of a speaking captain?
And anything else that drags the meeting past 1 min.

tref Wed Jan 19, 2011 03:17pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 719214)
Someone should come with a list of things not to say in a pregame captains/coaches meeting. Freddy's given us a good starting point.


Quote:

Originally Posted by reffish (Post 719231)
What not to say:
We are gonna call (fill in blank)
Who are my speaking captains? And those that ask this, why? I asked That Guy and he said......well, he didn't have a reason. In the meeting, after asking who are my speaking captains, That Guy said, anyone can talk to us. So why the distinction of a speaking captain?
And anything else that drags the meeting past 1 min.

"We're gonna work hard for you tonight!" :rolleyes:

Freddy Wed Jan 19, 2011 03:38pm

Things Not To Say...
 
Don't mean to hijack this post, but it's on the same general topic; and besides, Billy Mac opened the door:

One thing not to say during the brief pre-game meet/greet with the coach: "So, coach, are there any questions you have about the rules?"

One thing good to say . . . "Coach, after a timeout or intermission, bring 'em out at the first horn; we'd like to make the ball live at the second horn."
(Funny thing, when I say that prior to a game, the players seem much easier to exit their huddles. When I don't say it, we spend the whole game like a dentist yanking out teeth extracting them from their bench areas. Saying "First horn coach..." twelve times each timeout gets old real fast.

tref Wed Jan 19, 2011 03:47pm

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Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 719258)
One thing good to say . . . "Coach, after a timeout or intermission, bring 'em out at the first horn; we'd like to make the ball live at the second horn."
(Funny thing, when I say that prior to a game, the players seem much easier to exit their huddles. When I don't say it, we spend the whole game like a dentist yanking out teeth extracting them from their bench areas. Saying "First horn coach..." twelve times each timeout gets old real fast.


Use the assistant coaches to help get em out OR try sitting the ball on the ground at the throwin spot. You won't have anymore trouble during the game!!

Freddy Wed Jan 19, 2011 03:53pm

Speaking Captain
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by reffish (Post 719231)
What not to say:
So why the distinction of a speaking captain?

Do any of you sense that the "captain" role has become merely ceremonial for most teams nowadays? The book asks us to identify the captain (singular). Maybe the whole "speaking captain" thingie evolved from guys not wanting to demean the other two or three or four or five, whatever, by asking, "OK, which one of you two or three or four or five is the real captain?"
Shucks, there's no prohibition for the whole team to answer the call if they wanted to. And frankly, I wouldn't mind having everyone from both teams come out and hear my dog and pony show on sportsmanship. :D
Still, identifying the captain is a required responsibility of ours.
Some find the whole "speaking captain" thing misleading anyway, since most will certainly allow any player to speak to them in a polite and respectful manner, right?

I like it most when my partner introduces me as the non-speaking official. That way I don't feel compelled to respond to anything the coach says to me. :D

Freddy Wed Jan 19, 2011 03:57pm

Yep!
 
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Originally Posted by tref (Post 719264)
. . . try sitting the ball on the ground at the throwin spot. You won't have anymore trouble during the game!!

Yes, the RTP proceedure. And you are correct. Cf. personal tagline below. It works.

BktBallRef Wed Jan 19, 2011 04:27pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 719194)
Do you break into song?

Bet yer bottom dollar!

BktBallRef Wed Jan 19, 2011 04:31pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by reffish (Post 719231)
What not to say:
We are gonna call (fill in blank)
Who are my speaking captains? And those that ask this, why? I asked That Guy and he said......well, he didn't have a reason. In the meeting, after asking who are my speaking captains, That Guy said, anyone can talk to us. So why the distinction of a speaking captain?
And anything else that drags the meeting past 1 min.

I ask who the speaking captains are. The meeting never lasts over 30 seconds.


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