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chseagle Tue Jan 18, 2011 06:12am

Pre-jump/start of 2nd half
 
While watching the replay of Findlay Prep vs. Lincoln on ESPNU right now, I got to thinking about table operations at the start of the game/start of 2nd half.

Before the jump ball, I have noticed it's common procedure for the official administering the jump to look at the table and ask with hand signals ready.

What type of acknowledgment to do you want from the table to signal ready?

GoodwillRef Tue Jan 18, 2011 07:09am

Pre-jump to start the game I am having the U1 in a 2 or 3 person game ask the table if they are ready. So when the R ask the U1 if he/she is ready that would include the table. The start of the second half I am just looking for a nod that the timer and scorer are ready to go.

RobbyinTN Tue Jan 18, 2011 09:01am

As GoodwillRef said, as the R I am depending on my U1 to ensure the table is ready before the jump ball. When his/her hand goes up, I assume that means we are ready to play ball. At the beginning of the other quarters/half I simply look to the table and get an acknowledement that they are ready for action. If I don't get a nod I may point at the table and then they will give me the nod.

I also ensure I have eye contact with my U1 (and U2 in a 3 whistle game) to ensure they are ready

Robby

Rich Tue Jan 18, 2011 09:32am

As the U1 (or U in a 2-person game), I'm ensuring that the scorer, timer and both head coaches are ready to go. The coaches are unnecessary, but a nice touch (I think). Once I got a "ready" from those four, I give the R a point and raise my arm for the chop.

Last week we had a jump go out of bounds and we needed to rejump as it was simply impossible to see who tapped it out. The clock still said 8:00. I had to have a brief chat with the timer.

bob jenkins Tue Jan 18, 2011 09:44am

Quote:

Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 718020)
While watching the replay of Findlay Prep vs. Lincoln on ESPNU right now, I got to thinking about table operations at the start of the game/start of 2nd half.

Before the jump ball, I have noticed it's common procedure for the official administering the jump to look at the table and ask with hand signals ready.

What type of acknowledgment to do you want from the table to signal ready?

It doesn't effin matter.

Sigh.

Rich Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:28am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 718122)
It doesn't effin matter.

Sigh.

Personally, I thought it was a reasonable question, but probably the only one of the last 10 he's asked, so I "get" your frustration.

It's probably overrated to ask everyone, though, as the whistle makes it pretty clear the ball's about to go up.

APG Tue Jan 18, 2011 03:13pm

My U1 being ready to go means the table is good to go as well. If I'm U1 a simple, "Are we good to go?" is all I ask. A simple yes or no is all the acknowledgement needed.

At the beginning of a half/quarter I just look up to make sure the correct amount of time is on the clock. A simple glance at the table to see if everyone ready is all that's needed. The whistle before the throw-in will get everyone's attention.

BktBallRef Tue Jan 18, 2011 03:24pm

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 718356)
My U1 being ready to go means the table is good to go as well. If I'm U1 a simple, "Are we good to go?" is all I ask. A simple yes or no is all the acknowledgement needed.

At the beginning of a half/quarter I just look up to make sure the correct amount of time is on the clock. A simple glance at the table to see if everyone ready is all that's needed. The whistle before the throw-in will get everyone's attention.

Agreed and agreed.

8 minutes on the clock, everybody seated, Tweet!, and hand the thrower the ball.

RookieDude Tue Jan 18, 2011 06:22pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 718122)
It doesn't effin matter.

Sigh.

Damn...Bob...get off the guy's back. He's simply asking a question that "MATTERS" to him.

You're acting like me when I get frustrated with Coaches...and that is unprofessional.;)

BTW...eagleman...I like to point to the table and get some kind of response before I toss it or bounce it at the start of the 3rd quarter.

APG Tue Jan 18, 2011 06:27pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 718494)
Damn...Bob...get off the guys back. He's simply asking a question that "MATTERS" to him.

You're acting like me when I get frustrated with Coaches...and that is unprofessional.;)

While this was a reasonable question in my opinion, it is hard when chs makes pointless threads about pea vs. pealess whistles or whether he should be pointing out uniform violations, etc.

biggravy Tue Jan 18, 2011 06:38pm

I have the timer hold up his taser so I know the table crew is ready.

BillyMac Tue Jan 18, 2011 06:45pm

Yeah, We're Ready ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by biggravy (Post 718504)
I have the timer hold up his laser so I know the table crew is ready.

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbn...9d2d&index=ch1

chseagle Tue Jan 18, 2011 07:31pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 718497)
While this was a reasonable question in my opinion, it is hard when chs makes pointless threads about pea vs. pealess whistles or whether he should be pointing out uniform violations, etc.

I was just curious about the whistles cause of coming upon the Fox 40 website & knowing that there's still whistles being sold that have the pea inside them.

Concerning the uniform violations, I just ask questions about something I see is all. (Considering I'm seeing undershirts not the color of the torso of the jersey being worn in Sub-V games or logos/text seen on the undershirt through the neck opening)

What brought up this thread was from watching the Findlay Prep vs. Lincoln Replay on ESPNU & thinking back to previous games this year.

tjones1 Tue Jan 18, 2011 08:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef (Post 718039)
Pre-jump to start the game I am having the U1 in a 2 or 3 person game ask the table if they are ready. So when the R ask the U1 if he/she is ready that would include the table. The start of the second half I am just looking for a nod that the timer and scorer are ready to go.

Same here.

bob jenkins Wed Jan 19, 2011 09:17am

Quote:

Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 718494)
Damn...Bob...get off the guy's back. He's simply asking a question that "MATTERS" to him.

I stand by my response. It doesn't effin matter what type of acknowledgement the table gives -- thumbs up, a nod, a point, saying "yes" or "ready when you are", ...


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