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representing Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:38pm

referee shirt
 
I hope someone else ran into this problem and figured a solution.

One of my referee shirt, the primary one I wear, had lost its bright whiteness. I washed it with colors since I don't have many white articles of clothing, and because I needed it same day I was ref'ing, I put it in the dryer. When it came out, the white is now an off-white, but not quite gray. Has anyone come into this problem and/or know of a solution? I'm considering taking it to a dry cleaner to see if they could do anything, but would like to see if there is an easy at-home solution. I even tried just washing it again by itself and letting it air-dry, but that didn't work.

Back In The Saddle Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:46pm

I don't know what to tell you about that shirt. But I wash mine in cold, and I always include a color catcher. I dry hanging up. Never had a problem.

representing Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:57pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 714368)
I don't know what to tell you about that shirt. But I wash mine in cold, and I always include a color catcher. I dry hanging up. Never had a problem.

That's what I've always done, cold water and mix colors and whites. I've even used the dryer on this same referee shirt before many times (when I would need it same day for games) and never had a problem. I guess I'll take it to a dry cleaner later this week. I'll have to find one of my other shirts for the rest of this week. Thanks.

JRutledge Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:36am

I always wash mine in cold water and wash them in things that do not bleed. Seems to work for me and never had a problem.

Peace

offici88 Tue Jan 11, 2011 01:24am

Quote:

Originally Posted by representing (Post 714363)
I hope someone else ran into this problem and figured a solution.

One of my referee shirt, the primary one I wear, had lost its bright whiteness. I washed it with colors since I don't have many white articles of clothing, and because I needed it same day I was ref'ing, I put it in the dryer. When it came out, the white is now an off-white, but not quite gray. Has anyone come into this problem and/or know of a solution? I'm considering taking it to a dry cleaner to see if they could do anything, but would like to see if there is an easy at-home solution. I even tried just washing it again by itself and letting it air-dry, but that didn't work.

Vinegar is the do-it-all in my house these days. Add some white vinegar to your next load and see if that helps. I've been using vinegar for my color and odor problems (works for Under Armour very well).

cmhjordan23 Tue Jan 11, 2011 01:28am

The problem is you did the laundry. I let my wife handle all my delicates. LOL

Camron Rust Tue Jan 11, 2011 05:00am

I use this stuff on all my underarmor or dri-fit type stuff...undershirts, compression shorts, referee shirts, etc....anything that is performance/wicking fabric.
Amazon.com: Atsko Sport Laundry Detergent 34 Oz: Sports & Outdoors
I used to use
Amazon.com: Penguin Brands Penguin Sport Wash: Sports & Outdoors
until I found out that it was the exact same stuff and the Atsko stuff was a lot cheaper.
From one Amazon comment: The Penguin Sport Wash is identical to the Atsko Sport Wash and is actually filled by Atsko. Penguin is just their brand that markets to runners. They also have a version that they market to hunters/outdoorsmen. Every version is IDENTICAL.

I wash my under layers with the referee stripes and any other similar type of performance clothing....golf shirts, my wife's exercise clothes, etc. They're all the same basic type of fabric...none of them bleed and they all benefit from special treatment. Sometimes, it makes only a small load...but that is fine. No need to ruin the clothing to save a nickel. It also helps to have 5-7 of everything so you don't have to do the laundry often.

They ALL go in the dryer together on medium heat and NO dryer sheet. (Dryer sheets actually ruin the wicking behavior of the fabric...but, supposedly, that can be reversed with a few washings with no dryer sheet).

My pants and socks just go in the regular wash with other darks...but not with towels since towels are lint generators.

grunewar Tue Jan 11, 2011 05:12am

Huh? Me laundry?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cmhjordan23 (Post 714402)
the problem is you did the laundry.

+1

stratref Tue Jan 11, 2011 06:42am

I have herd of stuff called "laundry bluing" it is a dye for getting yellow/gray out of your whites and turn them white again. It is only a few bucks and might be worth looking into.

Jasper

PS This is they same type of thing your dry cleaner would try first it you take it to them.

tref Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:16am

Quote:

Originally Posted by representing (Post 714363)
I hope someone else ran into this problem and figured a solution.

One of my referee shirt, the primary one I wear, had lost its bright whiteness. I washed it with colors since I don't have many white articles of clothing, and because I needed it same day I was ref'ing, I put it in the dryer. When it came out, the white is now an off-white, but not quite gray. Has anyone come into this problem and/or know of a solution? I'm considering taking it to a dry cleaner to see if they could do anything, but would like to see if there is an easy at-home solution. I even tried just washing it again by itself and letting it air-dry, but that didn't work.

Did you recently buy new undershirts?
I had a similar problem last season. I bought some cheap undershirts & they bled onto my stripes once I began to sweat. Ruined 3 shirts before I figured out the cause of my new greys -errrr- grey stripes :(

Rich Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:45am

Quote:

Originally Posted by offici88 (Post 714401)
Vinegar is the do-it-all in my house these days. Add some white vinegar to your next load and see if that helps. I've been using vinegar for my color and odor problems (works for Under Armour very well).

Vinegar is an excellent, cheap replacement for fabric softener. That blue stuff (I mean fabric softener like Downy) seems harmless enough, but it will ruin wicking material and it also will eventually clog the line out from the washer. We've used nothing but vinegar for the past few years after a washer repairman swore by it. We buy gallons of it at a time at Costco.

Cameron, I'll try the sport detergent, though, as I feel maybe the wicking material isn't wicking as well as I'd like. Do you foresee any problems using it for the entire uniform? I tend to wash my entire uniform (shirt, pants, undershirt, tights, socks) in one load and usually was no more than 2 uniforms at a time (I work at home and laundry is easy to do in the background).

Camron Rust Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 714464)
Cameron, I'll try the sport detergent, though, as I feel maybe the wicking material isn't wicking as well as I'd like. Do you foresee any problems using it for the entire uniform? I tend to wash my entire uniform (shirt, pants, undershirt, tights, socks) in one load and usually was no more than 2 uniforms at a time (I work at home and laundry is easy to do in the background).

Should work fine.

representing Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:25pm

Thank you for all of the advices given. I'll look at all of them and start with the cheaper options first and work my way up until I can find a solution (if I do find one). I do appreciate all of the comments. Thanks again.

ref3808 Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:30pm

Laundry Service
 
Each week I invest in my laundry services by handing over a game fee to my wife. She gets some walking around money, I don't have to deal with laundry, Works well for me.

Mark Padgett Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:35pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmhjordan23 (Post 714402)
The problem is you did the laundry. I let my wife handle all my delicates. LOL

I let your wife handle all my delicates, too. :D

Amesman Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:42pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ref3808 (Post 714488)
Each week I invest in my laundry services by handing over a game fee to my wife. She gets some walking around money, I don't have to deal with laundry, Works well for me.

Does she contract out? My wife gets the mail and, well, there go virtually all the game fees.

representing Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:44pm

For those comments regarding their significant other doing the laundry. LUCKY YOU haha. I live with my dad right now. I should be moving out within the next 6 months and getting an apartment with my girlfriend who will do my laundry (she has offered to do so already). I'll fork her some spending money like Mark. Good idea Mark!

Amesman Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:52pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by representing (Post 714496)
I should be moving out within the next 6 months and getting an apartment with my girlfriend who will do my laundry (she has offered to do so already). I'll fork her some spending money like Mark. Good idea Mark!

... good idea until she pops up at the first game when you're checking out the hot moms in the third row.

You're bound to wind up with pink-and-black stripes ... and there's only so many cancer-awareness charity games you can work to use all of those. :rolleyes:

BillyMac Tue Jan 11, 2011 01:55pm

Sounds Like A Wash To Me ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ref3808 (Post 714488)
Each week I invest in my laundry services by handing over a game fee to my wife. She gets some walking around money, I don't have to deal with laundry, Works well for me.

You could claim this on your income tax as a business expense, but then your wife would have to claim this as income.

JRutledge Tue Jan 11, 2011 02:38pm

I would not trust anyone to do my laundry. I would be to afraid they would screw it up. It is not like it takes a long time. And if you have one of those new washer and dryers, man that is like stealing. Some of you are getting hustled. ;)

Peace

letemplay Tue Jan 11, 2011 03:34pm

Not in the rule book
 
The quandary I always have as I stand before the washer with my ref shirt.....is it a white or a dark?? Some of you more domesticated types please help:

JRutledge Tue Jan 11, 2011 03:39pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by letemplay (Post 714609)
The quandary I always have as I stand before the washer with my ref shirt.....is it a white or a dark?? Some of you more domesticated types please help:

This really about the kind of shirt it is. But I wash the all my shirts in darks and in cold water. And I only wash my shirts and undergarments which are all UnderArmor stuff other than socks, so those clothes do not bleed. I never throw my stuff in with other clothes that are not officiating stuff.

Peace

Rich Tue Jan 11, 2011 03:42pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 714557)
I would not trust anyone to do my laundry. I would be to afraid they would screw it up. It is not like it takes a long time. And if you have one of those new washer and dryers, man that is like stealing. Some of you are getting hustled. ;)

Peace

I am lucky to have someone to do my laundry, usually before I'm done with my first cup of coffee in the morning. I have two uniforms and had no need to drag the second one out until I worked two games in a day.

She who does the laundry (my live-in MIL) does my uniforms separately and washes everything together. No fabric softener, quick wash, minimal detergent. I mean, it's not like we're rolling around in the mud in these uniforms.

BillyMac Tue Jan 11, 2011 03:58pm

When Do We Exchange Recipes ???
 
I wash my official's jersey with my dress shirts that I wear at my day job. Just a little bit of liquid detergent. Tumble for a few minutes in the dryer, and then hang it up on the indoor line to dry. Never had a problem.

BktBallRef Tue Jan 11, 2011 04:02pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by representing (Post 714484)
Thank you for all of the advices given. I'll look at all of them and start with the cheaper options first and work my way up until I can find a solution (if I do find one). I do appreciate all of the comments. Thanks again.

Sheesh...just buy a new shirt, dude. Officialschoice has them, cheap.

Quote:

Originally Posted by letemplay (Post 714609)
The quandary I always have as I stand before the washer with my ref shirt.....is it a white or a dark??

Yes, it is. :)

Rich Tue Jan 11, 2011 05:13pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 714631)
Sheesh...just buy a new shirt, dude. Officialschoice has them, cheap.



Yes, it is. :)

Purchase Officials has them 2 for $33 if you don't want to use OC.

Adam Tue Jan 11, 2011 05:25pm

Time to retire your lucky shirt. Maybe frame it and hang it over the mantle.

BktBallRef Tue Jan 11, 2011 05:53pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 714672)
Purchase Officials has them 2 for $33 if you don't want to use OC.


$12.50 ea. at OC. Just need to call so they don't rip you off on shipping.

Rich Tue Jan 11, 2011 06:29pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 714690)
$12.50 ea. at OC. Just need to call so they don't rip you off on shipping.

No thanks. I'd rather deal with Purchase and pay an extra $4 a shirt.

grunewar Tue Jan 11, 2011 06:47pm

C'mon Man!
Quote:

Originally Posted by ref3808 (Post 714488)
Each week I invest in my laundry services by handing over a game fee to my wife.

If I ever considered this, ever, it would have to be one of my Sat Rec Ball games. :o

Quote:

Originally Posted by representing (Post 714496)
I should be moving out within the next 6 months and getting an apartment with my girlfriend who will do my laundry (she has offered to do so already). I'll fork her some spending money like Mark. Good idea Mark!

Ah, young love....... I think! :rolleyes:

BktBallRef Tue Jan 11, 2011 09:13pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 714701)
No thanks. I'd rather deal with Purchase and pay an extra $4 a shirt.

It was never suggested that YOU call to begin with! :D

Mregor Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by representing (Post 714377)
I guess I'll take it to a dry cleaner later this week. I'll have to find one of my other shirts for the rest of this week. Thanks.

Throwing money away on the dry cleaner. Dry cleaner is only for clothes that aren't supposed to be laundered. It's not a "super clean" and won't fix the greyish white. Buy a new shirt and don't wash it with colors that can bleed. Maybe your cotton sox?

Terrance "TJ" Thu Jan 13, 2011 04:47am

I became a big boy years ago...I was leaving for college and mom made sure I knew had to wash the range of clothing.

There are two refs in this house. But I would not entrust the intregrity of my uniform to that of the other sports ref. Besides, he has a tendency of losing (dont know how in this small house)/misplacing clothes that aren't his. Seeing that pants and the shirt are a bit vital, I'll do it myself.

But I have no tips, my shirt is a year old and not being worn this season, so it looks brand spankin new.:(

NCAAREF Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:49am

Really?
 
You're kidding right? Buy a new shirt and while you're at it buy a couple. Why wouldn't you have more then one shirt?

Cobra Thu Jan 13, 2011 03:20pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCAAREF (Post 715384)
Why wouldn't you have more then one shirt?

You only wear one at a time so there is actually no need to have more than one.

bob jenkins Thu Jan 13, 2011 03:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra (Post 715454)
You only wear one at a time so there is actually no need to have more than one.

There's no need, I agree. But, for me, the benefits of doing the laundry once a week as opposed to every day make up for the cost of the extra uniforms.

Camron Rust Thu Jan 13, 2011 04:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 715456)
There's no need, I agree. But, for me, the benefits of doing the laundry once a week as opposed to every day make up for the cost of the extra uniforms.

Exactly....I have several for that reason. I don't have the time to mess with laundry several times per week.

Plus, that is horribly inefficient to do all those small loads....it will waste a LOT of money in utilities. You'd probably break even or even come out ahead after a couple of years by purchasing more uniforms.

JRutledge Thu Jan 13, 2011 04:48pm

I probably have about 12 high school shirts and about 6 or 7 college shirts. I own about 8 or 9 pairs of pants. It takes a while for me to have to do laundry. Then again this is a business and all these are part of the business to help me not have to do laundry all the time. I sometimes go over a week without having to do laundry.

Peace

Rich Thu Jan 13, 2011 05:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra (Post 715454)
You only wear one at a time so there is actually no need to have more than one.

You're kidding, right? What if your one is defective and splits at the side seam (I had one do that this year)?

Cobra Thu Jan 13, 2011 05:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 715521)
You're kidding, right? What if your one is defective and splits at the side seam (I had one do that this year)?

Sew it back together or buy another one.

Texas Aggie Thu Jan 13, 2011 05:30pm

Here are my laundry "rules":

-- whites with whites, blacks with blacks, stripes with stripes (all ONLY); no exceptions
-- stripes on cold, everything else on warm unless there's a stain on the knickers
-- everything hang dries except under garments like tights, briefs, under-socks, etc. which go through an air dry cycle in the dryer

If a striped shirt is fading, either black or white, get a new one. They're cheap. I rotate a minimum of 4 shirts in every season and they last about 2-3 years, depending on the number of games I do. Even starting out, you should never have fewer than 2 shirts in any sport.

Adam Thu Jan 13, 2011 06:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 715521)
You're kidding, right? What if your one is defective and splits at the side seam (I had one do that this year)?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra (Post 715524)
Sew it back together or buy another one.

Neither of which can be done during a pregame conference in the locker room.

Cobra Thu Jan 13, 2011 06:20pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 715553)
Neither of which can be done during a pregame conference in the locker room.

Then you can pin it together or just wear it with a hole in it.

BillyMac Thu Jan 13, 2011 06:48pm

Sewing Circle ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 715553)
Neither of which can be done during a pregame conference in the locker room.

I carry a small sewing kit in my bag, just in case. Only had to use it once in thirty years, but I'm glad that I had it.

Adam Thu Jan 13, 2011 08:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra (Post 715554)
Then you can pin it together or just wear it with a hole in it.

There may not be a "need" for more than one shirt (unless there are different requirements for patches that are mutually exclusive), but it sure is a pretty good idea to have a spare.

Judtech Thu Jan 13, 2011 08:39pm

Wait....you guys wash your shirts?! During the season? Does this help? Is there a rule or case play you can cite?!?!

Actually, I am in JRut's land: 5 pairs of slacks 4 HS 5 College shirts. Although the HS shirts are the old Poly type and 2 "used" College shirts that you could say have been put out to "Patcher"?

Cobra Thu Jan 13, 2011 09:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 715592)
There may not be a "need" for more than one shirt (unless there are different requirements for patches that are mutually exclusive), but it sure is a pretty good idea to have a spare.

Of course it is nice to have a backup. But there is no reason to ask someone "why wouldn't you have more than one shirt?" because no one actually needs to have more than one.

Adam Thu Jan 13, 2011 09:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra (Post 715608)
Of course it is nice to have a backup. But there is no reason to ask someone "why wouldn't you have more than one shirt?" because no one actually needs to have more than one.

:rolleyes: :confused:

"No reason to ask?" Sure there is. A great reason to ask is because it's a really good idea to have more than 1. In fact, it's a really bad idea to have just one.

26 Year Gap Thu Jan 13, 2011 09:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra (Post 715608)
Of course it is nice to have a backup. But there is no reason to ask someone "why wouldn't you have more than one shirt?" because no one actually needs to have more than one.

Why have one more reason to have someone say, "You stink."?

mbyron Fri Jan 14, 2011 07:41am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra (Post 715608)
Of course it is nice to have a backup. But there is no reason to ask someone "why wouldn't you have more than one shirt?" because no one actually needs to have more than one.

You've got an answer for everything, dontcha? OK, answer this one: how do you get off my ignore list?

bob jenkins Fri Jan 14, 2011 08:34am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra (Post 715608)
Of course it is nice to have a backup. But there is no reason to ask someone "why wouldn't you have more than one shirt?" because no one actually needs to have more than one.

Because, for most officials, the benefits of the second shirt are so far above the cost of the shirt, the incredulidity (word?) of the question makes perfect sense.

Now, if the OP said, "I have 11 shirts." and the response was "Why would you not have 12?", I'd agree with you.

BktBallRef Fri Jan 14, 2011 08:42am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 715610)
:rolleyes: :confused:

"No reason to ask?" Sure there is. A great reason to ask is because it's a really good idea to have more than 1. In fact, it's a really bad idea to have just one.

Actually, it's real stoopid to just have one and it's a real, real stoopid comment. If had a kid get blood on my shirt. I've had them get picked and run like a pair of women's hose. I've worked so many games in a day that to wear one would require me to wring out the sweat after each game.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 715713)
You've got an answer for everything, dontcha? OK, answer this one: how do you get off my ignore list?

He's becoming a permanent fixture on more and more Ignore lists everyday. But even after you put him on Ignore, you faced with others quoting him. :(

26 Year Gap Fri Jan 14, 2011 09:12am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 715727)
Actually, it's real stoopid to just have one and it's a real, real stoopid comment. If had a kid get blood on my shirt. I've had them get picked and run like a pair of women's hose. I've worked so many games in a day that to wear one would require me to wring out the sweat after each game.



He's becoming a permanent fixture on more and more Ignore lists everyday. But even after you put him on Ignore, you faced with others quoting him. :(

There is your answer, mbyron. Go re-read that thread yet again.

Adam Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:41am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 715727)
He's becoming a permanent fixture on more and more Ignore lists everyday. But even after you put him on Ignore, you faced with others quoting him. :(

I can tell you I won't be committing that crime again.

mbyron Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:44am

Quote:

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 715735)
There is your answer, mbyron. Go re-read that thread yet again.

Oh, I understood the content of your post. I was merely being my cheery self and correcting your Latin. :D

26 Year Gap Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:57am

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 715773)
Oh, I understood the content of your post. I was merely being my cheery self and correcting your Latin. :D

Since I never took Latin, and have no intention of taking it in the future, there is no way I would even know you were trying to make a correction. At least I left bread crumbs for you to follow. Now, shut up.:D

26 Year Gap Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:58am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 715772)
I can tell you I won't be committing that crime again.

Can I quote you on that? Oh. I guess I did.

Adam Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:06pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 715779)
Can I quote you on that? Oh. I guess I did.

And I'm sure you just angered those who have me on ignore. :D

26 Year Gap Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:06pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amesman (Post 714495)
Does she contract out? My wife gets the mail and, well, there go virtually all the game fees.

Is that like when Steve Martin's cat used to cash his checks?

26 Year Gap Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:14pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 715784)
And I'm sure you just angered those who have me on ignore. :D

But I probably have them on ignore. So, how would I know, unless.....

BktBallRef, Cut that out!!!

Mark Padgett Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:18pm

What's going on here?
 
Is this a discussion board or Fox News? :confused:

As that great philosopher, Attila the Hun said, "Can't we all just get along?"

Rich Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:47pm

It makes me nervous only having 2 shirts, even though mine get washed the next morning 100% of the time. But that's what happened after my other shirts got ruined at a camp last year by the pins I had to stick through them.

Having one shirt is just idiotic unless you only work 10 games a year. My ignore list is empty, but I know how to use the technology if possible.


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