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asdf Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:51am

There's only one reason he counted out loud....

....to show you up in front of everyone in the gym. "I was counting to myself" is proof.....

Whack....

GoodwillRef Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:56am

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Originally Posted by asdf (Post 712126)
There's only one reason he counted out loud....

....to show you up in front of everyone in the gym. "I was counting to myself" is proof.....

Whack....

How about..."Coach we are done counting out loud, if you continue it will be a technical foul."

chartrusepengui Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:05am

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Originally Posted by GoodwillRef (Post 712129)
How about..."Coach we are done counting out loud, if you continue it will be a technical foul."

How about "WHACK - coach we are done counting out loud, if you continue it will be another technical foul. :p

mbyron Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:22am

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Originally Posted by GoodwillRef (Post 712129)
How about..."Coach we are done counting out loud, if you continue it will be a technical foul."

The OP's remark was sufficient warning, IMO. A quibbler can always find something to pick at, including in your remark ("You said 'we' are done, but that doesn't imply that I'm done."). Homey don't play that game.

rsl Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:40am

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Originally Posted by Rita C (Post 712001)

There were no further issues that game.

This Kinda says it all. A good T is one that makes your game better.

Rich Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:01pm

We had a coach who came at my partner at halftime while we were standing at midcourt. The guy is a newer/greener official than me and I stepped in and walked the coach away and essentially told him to get to the locker room.

At halftime, I had a chat with a D-I official who happens to work at the school. He asked me if I had specifically warned the coach. I hadn't. Perhaps it would've been a useful thing -- at the time I was most interested in getting him away from my partner (who made a great call, BTW) and to the locker room so we could clear out ourselves.

I'm not a big fan of phrases like "you've been warned" or "this is your warning" but I know that different areas and different levels have requirements and you should just go with what's done locally.

BillyMac Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:31pm

On Further Thought, Nevermind ...
 
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 712122)
You've never run into a player at that level that just didn't listen?

The captains always listen to every word we say at the pregame captain's meeting. Right?

Rich Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:34pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 712157)
The captains always listen to every word we say at the pregame captain's meeting. Right?

It's why my meeting lasts about 15 seconds.

Adam Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:43pm

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Originally Posted by rsl (Post 712142)
This Kinda says it all. A good T is one that makes your game better.

Personally, I don't care if she'd had further problems after this call, it would have still been a good T. I don't much care for that standard ("a good T makes your game better.")

Unsporting behavior needs to be dealt with. It will normally make the game better, but if it doesn't that doesn't mean it was a bad T.

Back In The Saddle Wed Jan 05, 2011 01:31pm

Reading is so fundamental
 
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 712057)
I'm reading it as the same coach making this mistake. When she told him "I've got it," that's his warning.

This is what I get for trying to comprehend late at night. Re-reading the OP with a modicum more consciousness I think you're probably right. I hate when that happens. :o

Jurassic Referee Wed Jan 05, 2011 02:55pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 712157)
The captains always listen to every word we say at the pregame captain's meeting. Right?

About as much as your partners if you're the R......

Jurassic Referee Wed Jan 05, 2011 03:00pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 712161)
Personally, I don't care if she'd had further problems after this call, it would have still been a good T. I don't much care for that standard ("a good T makes your game better.")

Unsporting behavior needs to be dealt with. It will normally make the game better, but if it doesn't that doesn't mean it was a bad T.

+1

Most technical fouls call themselves. Just call the damn "T"s without analyzing the hell outa them. They're just another call, as has been already pointed out umpteen times by various esteemed and astute members.

Judtech Wed Jan 05, 2011 03:06pm

I have no problem with that T. Just like middle school players need to learn how to play the game, some middle school coaches need to learn how to coach. (Most notably acceptable and non acceptable behavior)
I agree that most T's take care of themselves.
As for more warnings: (facetious, sorta)
"Coach, I am trying to count to 3 but everytime I get to 2 you keep interrupting me with YOUR count and I have to start over again!"
"Coach, if you are counting to yourself, please use your inside voice!"
As a rule of thumb, if I hear a coach start counting, I stop counting, but that is just me HA:D

Adam Wed Jan 05, 2011 03:08pm

I've used the "I've got it, coach" a few times when actually making the call (3 seconds, traveling, 5 seconds, it doesn't matter) and it usually gets the point through.

RookieDude Wed Jan 05, 2011 03:27pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 712108)
I'd be thrilled if they rewrote the 3-second rule in a way that shut up coaches who think we should be actively looking for players with one toe over the lane line opposite the ball. (This only happens in lower level and girls varsity games, IMO.)

Yep...had a MS coach earlier this year who made the remark that our assignor had assigned this game with a little "overkill"...apparently in reference to us doing Varsity Basketball in the area.

Then he preceded to tell me, during the game, that the opposing 7th grader was "in the key". (His big toe was over the lane line opposite ball)

I asked him if he "was going to tell me how to officiate this game"? He was smart enough to know, that was enough.

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 712280)
I've used the "I've got it, coach" a few times when actually making the call (3 seconds, traveling, 5 seconds, it doesn't matter) and it usually gets the point through.

Exactly...and they usuually get a STOP sign with the statement...for visual effect.;)


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