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Scratch85 Thu Dec 23, 2010 08:32pm
This will not be popular!!
 
I would like to get rid of the jump ball to start the game. Give the first (start of game) possession to the V. Then alternate at each quarter regardless of AP arrow. Reset AP with possession at each quarter.

Kind of like "first bats" and "last bats" in baseball. Given the AP it will still awlays be within one of being even. And, Home team will have possession to start the 4th quarter.

BillyMac Thu Dec 23, 2010 08:56pm
Will You Marry Me ???
 
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Originally Posted by Scratch85 (Post 709872)
I would like to get rid of the jump ball to start the game.
Now here's a gal with a really intelligent suggestion. She's a keeper.

Camron Rust Thu Dec 23, 2010 08:58pm
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Originally Posted by Scratch85 (Post 709872)
I would like to get rid of the jump ball to start the game. Give the first (start of game) possession to the V. Then alternate at each quarter regardless of AP arrow. Reset AP with possession at each quarter.

Kind of like "first bats" and "last bats" in baseball. Given the AP it will still awlays be within one of being even. And, Home team will have possession to start the 4th quarter.
I have no problem with that.

Scratch85 Thu Dec 23, 2010 09:41pm
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 709878)
Now here's a gal with a really intelligent suggestion. She's a keeper.
I don't think a marriage between us is recognized in my State. Can't speak for your State but my wife might struggle with it! :p

bainsey Fri Dec 24, 2010 02:05am
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Originally Posted by Scratch85 (Post 709872)
I would like to get rid of the jump ball to start the game.
Okay, so what about overtime periods?

chseagle Fri Dec 24, 2010 03:12am
Ok here's another idea, especially since just went through a 2 OT game, since OT is considered an extension of the 4th quarter (2nd half in college), have OT start like the resumption of play after halftime.

I like the idea of 16 minute halves instead or 8 minute quarters. That would take away 2 1-minute official TOs & could make the game go a bit faster.

zm1283 Fri Dec 24, 2010 09:12am
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Originally Posted by ref3808 (Post 709739)
Go to a jump ball.

If I'm a defensive player and I've legally created a jump ball situation why do I get penalized for making a smart play based on an arrow?

If I'm an offensive player and I've not protected the ball sufficently than I deserve whatever result comes from the jump.

I think that player has earned the right to contest for the ball as part of competing.

I know some of us are concerned about throwing a good jump ball in a close contest, but I think that skill would improve as more jumps are administered.
We have games (mostly girls games) around here that last entirely too long as it is, partly because there are so many held balls. This would extend them even longer. I don't like it.

26 Year Gap Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:06am
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Originally Posted by ref3808 (Post 709739)
Go to a jump ball.

If I'm a defensive player and I've legally created a jump ball situation why do I get penalized for making a smart play based on an arrow?

If I'm an offensive player and I've not protected the ball sufficently than I deserve whatever result comes from the jump.

I think that player has earned the right to contest for the ball as part of competing.

I know some of us are concerned about throwing a good jump ball in a close contest, but I think that skill would improve as more jumps are administered.
You obviously did not officiate before the gap.

BillyMac Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:09am
No Way In The World ...
 
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Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 709950)
We have games (mostly girls games) around here that last entirely too long as it is, partly because there are so many held balls. This would extend them even longer.
Been there. Done that. Pre-1985. No way I'm going back.

26 Year Gap Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:09am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scratch85 (Post 709872)
I would like to get rid of the jump ball to start the game. Give the first (start of game) possession to the V. Then alternate at each quarter regardless of AP arrow. Reset AP with possession at each quarter.

Kind of like "first bats" and "last bats" in baseball. Given the AP it will still awlays be within one of being even. And, Home team will have possession to start the 4th quarter.
Why complicate it? Give the ball to V to start the game and use the AP for the balance of the game including OT.

BillyMac Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:11am
Just A Twinkle In Their Father's Eye ...
 
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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 709957)
You obviously did not officiate before the gap.
Officiate? I'm sure that many Forum members weren't even born before 1985.

BillyMac Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:13am
Maybe She'll Marry Me ???
 
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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 709959)
Give the ball to V to start the game and use the AP for the balance of the game including OT.
Another gal with a really intelligent suggestion. Another keeper.

26 Year Gap Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:15am
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 709961)
Another gal with a really intelligent suggestion. Another keeper.
Lay off the egg nog.

Scratch85 Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:48am
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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 709923)
Okay, so what about overtime periods?
OTs are an extension of the 4th period. We just keep going with AP as it alternates from the beginning of the 4th period.

so cal lurker Fri Dec 24, 2010 04:36pm
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Originally Posted by Scratch85 (Post 709978)
OTs are an extension of the 4th period. We just keep going with AP as it alternates from the beginning of the 4th period.
Yuck. I know I'm old fashioned, I like the jump balls and hate the AP. (Maybe I like them cuz I was good at them. . . or knew what I could get away with . . .) I reluctantly accept that it's here to stay (and agree it's a good thing for lower levels, esp lower level girls where I recall almost having to ice my arm after doing 5th grade girl's games when I was in high school) -- but unbalance OT? Yuck. Double yuck. A jump at the start remains a nice ceremonial beginning to the game. And OT deserves the ceremony, too.


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