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[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Tony, I know I did raise my fist but it was probably only long enough to roll into the PC foul signal. Good food for thought, thanks.

Good. Just use it to slow yourself long enough to look.

Wonder if your partner raised his fist.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Welpe

II didn't even hear his whistle.

I hate it when this happens.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Dribbler drives in from outside the three point arc on my side, secondary defender slips into the paint, and stays rock still. Dribbler gathers, takes a step and levels the defender.

Was this 2 whistle or 3 whistle?...

secondary defender?...in L's PCA?...

usually L's call in my pre-games.

[Welpe]

Two whistle...would love to have three in a freshman game but we still have many districts where they only work two for varsity.

I'm good pre-gaming it either way really...assuming we DO pre-game it, which was one take away I have from this situation.

Generally how I was trained was that on this type of play for two whistle, the trail takes it if the play starts in his/her PCA (with no reference to primary/secondary defender).

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Two whistle...would love to have three in a freshman game but we still have many districts where they only work two for varsity.

I'm good pre-gaming it either way really...assuming we DO pre-game it, which was one take away I have from this situation.

Generally how I was trained was that on this type of play for two whistle, the trail takes it if the play starts in his/her PCA (with no reference to primary/secondary defender).

Was the lead calling across the lane? Or had he crossed over?

[Welpe]

Across the lane. If this were three whistle mechanics, the crash would've happened in the C's primary (in relation to the position of the lead).

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Across the lane. If this were three whistle mechanics, the crash would've happened in the C's primary.

Actually, hopefully the L would have crossed over. This play is a perfect example of the benefits of going ball side in 2 whistle, too.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Two whistle...would love to have three in a freshman game but we still have many districts where they only work two for varsity.

I'm good pre-gaming it either way really...assuming we DO pre-game it, which was one take away I have from this situation.

Generally how I was trained was that on this type of play for two whistle, the trail takes it if the play starts in his/her PCA (with no reference to primary/secondary defender).

Copy...

We are fortunate enough here, that we have 3 whistle for all games above MS.

Someone mentioned (I think Bob) that we have a tendency to want to take this, if L, on these types of calls.

I agree...we use to say, "If the ball is coming TOWARDS you...it's your call."

We have evolved, as officials, but maybe this is still rattling around in some of our heads.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

We are fortunate enough here, that we have 3 whistle for all games above MS.

That must be nice. I'd be willing to work some 3 whistle at the subvarsity for a reduced fee just for the experience.