The Official Forum

The Official Forum (https://forum.officiating.com/)
-   Basketball (https://forum.officiating.com/basketball/)
-   -   Playing ball durring Ref seaon (https://forum.officiating.com/basketball/6016-playing-ball-durring-ref-seaon.html)

Troward Mon Oct 14, 2002 03:07pm

I got into officiating last year when after turning 30 I began to pile up those nagging basketball injuries that one use to be able to shake off in a week when we were younger.

Playing hoops continues to be (fun and) my best means to stay in shape for officiating, yet I continuous have nagging injuries to fingers, ankles, feet, etc. And now I am wondering if I am going to need to quit playing durring Ref season for fear of an injury that would impact my performance or cause me to forfeit my schedule?

How do others moderate their playing with their officiating?

I'm curious to hear ideas about specific strategies, routines, braces, or exercises, etc. that you have used for injury prevention while playing and/or to stay in shape for officiating?

thanks!


ChuckElias Mon Oct 14, 2002 03:16pm

Sadly, I don't play anymore. I used to have a regular game but gave it up when I got a full HS varsity schedule. I was about 32 at the time. I figure my knees only have so trips up and down the court in them, and I don't want to use 'em up. Dan saw me at camp this summer. He can tell you how much I've slowed down :)

Chuck

DrakeM Mon Oct 14, 2002 03:39pm

It all depends on how seriously you want to take refereeing.
If you're just into it for a little extra cash, I would say go ahead and play. However, if you have aspirations to take it further, D1,Pro etc., I would not play. You don't want to
take a chance that an injury can ruin a season or potentially a career.

stripes Mon Oct 14, 2002 03:59pm

Drake is right. You never know when your chance will come or who will be watching you. I don't even want the chance to get hurt playing. , especially if it costs me the opportunity to perform infront of someone important Find other training methods.

DrakeM Mon Oct 14, 2002 04:03pm

Spinning-great cardio workout. Easy on the joints, however can be a pain in the butt! Literally!:D

Dan_ref Mon Oct 14, 2002 07:24pm

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Sadly, I don't play anymore. I used to have a regular game but gave it up when I got a full HS varsity schedule. I was about 32 at the time. I figure my knees only have so trips up and down the court in them, and I don't want to use 'em up. Dan saw me at camp this summer. He can tell you how much I've slowed down :)

Chuck

Dan will tell you that Chuck is one speedy SOB. Really.

Dan will also agree with Chuck, Drake & Stripes, if you have
lofty goals referee'ing then don't risk an injury playing in
your local mens rec league.

Jurassic Referee Mon Oct 14, 2002 08:05pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref
[/B]
Dan will tell you that Chuck is one speedy SOB. Really.

[/B][/QUOTE]Henceforth,Chuck shall be known as " The Road Runner"!

Of course,Dan shall also be known as "Wiley Coyote"!

BktBallRef Mon Oct 14, 2002 10:53pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Dan will tell you that Chuck is one speedy SOB. Really.
Well, we already knew part of this! :D

Mike Burns Tue Oct 15, 2002 06:26am

Troward,
I got into reffing for the same reason. I blew out my ankle years ago and it still gives me trouble. I just turned 39, so maybe next year I'll try an over 40 league, but for now, I let reffing satisfy my "Basketball Jones".
Durring the off season I run or bike. Im blessed in that I don't carry extra weight and its still easy to find my legs and wind, but playing ball, even if it's just a pick-up game, is just an invitation to an injury that could make my assigner very... ummm.... unpleased.

fletch_irwin_m Tue Oct 15, 2002 08:15am

That is a great question. Obviously, you enjoy the GAME of basketball. While most people here say "Don't Play" I will disagree with them. I got into officiating to "get into shape" After playing in college and overseas, there really seemed no need to stay in shape, after all there were no more "Seasons" to stay in shape for! I have now dropped about 30lbs and enjoy officiating and playing, when time permits.
Here are some suggestions:
1. Know who you are playing with and against. This will dictate what you should do on the court. I play at lunch 3 times a week, and RARELY if ever do I drive the lane. These guys I play with, with a few exceptions, never played HS or college ball and don't understand what/how to foul. That is how you can get hurt. I will play a couple of times a month with a more "Advanced" group, and then I play like normal.
2. NEVER EVER EVER turn down a game, or block off your officiating schedule to accomodate your rec league playing schedule. After all, you will be able to move up the officiating ladder, but only down on the playing end!!

BTW, I have had 8 knee surgeries and will have 9 around Christmas. Eventually, I will have to stop playing (I have cut that down to 2 a week) but not right now, I just got back into shape!

stripes Tue Oct 15, 2002 09:33am

Quote:

Originally posted by fletch_irwin_m
That is a great question. Obviously, you enjoy the GAME of basketball. While most people here say "Don't Play" I will disagree with them. I got into officiating to "get into shape" After playing in college and overseas, there really seemed no need to stay in shape, after all there were no more "Seasons" to stay in shape for! I have now dropped about 30lbs and enjoy officiating and playing, when time permits.
Here are some suggestions:
1. Know who you are playing with and against. This will dictate what you should do on the court. I play at lunch 3 times a week, and RARELY if ever do I drive the lane. These guys I play with, with a few exceptions, never played HS or college ball and don't understand what/how to foul. That is how you can get hurt. I will play a couple of times a month with a more "Advanced" group, and then I play like normal.
2. NEVER EVER EVER turn down a game, or block off your officiating schedule to accomodate your rec league playing schedule. After all, you will be able to move up the officiating ladder, but only down on the playing end!!

BTW, I have had 8 knee surgeries and will have 9 around Christmas. Eventually, I will have to stop playing (I have cut that down to 2 a week) but not right now, I just got back into shape!

Fletch makes some good points, but remember, we have all seen players tweak a knee, pull a hamstring, turn an ankle, etc. when no one was around them. Playing with good players (if you can find them) is no guarantee that you won't get hurt and playing with bad players only increases your chances.

Andy Tue Oct 15, 2002 10:39am

Good question...

I stopped playing a few years after I started officiating.

My problem was that I was always telling the rec league officials how to officiate.

My revelation came when a rec league offical asked me during a game: So you think you can do this job better?

I told him that there was no doubt about that and got tossed. Last rec league game I played in.


Camron Rust Tue Oct 15, 2002 11:59am

In the past, I continued to play a weekly pickup game until I sprained an ankle one December. I normally wear Active Ankles everytime I play, but that one time I didn't. I was out for 2 weeks and it hurt for several more. Now, I NEVER play without them and I do NOT play just before or during the season. I still play in the offseason...from March to October. I stop 4-6 weeks before the season starts.

On top of that, the stress on my body (mostly ankles from previous injuries) of playing in addition to working games was becoming too much as I got into my 30's.

braboa Tue Oct 15, 2002 01:41pm

Re: great question
 
I had been debating with myself about why I don't play as much as I used to. I think it may be because officiating is satisfying my basketball jones. I still watch a lot, but except for a few occasions officiating is as close as I get to playing basketball. Tennis anyone? That has seemed to replace playing basketball for me.

Troward Tue Oct 15, 2002 03:22pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Camron Rust
In the past, I continued to play a weekly pickup game until I sprained an ankle one December. I normally wear Active Ankles everytime I play, but that one time I didn't. I was out for 2 weeks and it hurt for several more. Now, I NEVER play without them and I do NOT play just before or during the season. I still play in the offseason...from March to October. I stop 4-6 weeks before the season starts.

On top of that, the stress on my body (mostly ankles from previous injuries) of playing in addition to working games was becoming too much as I got into my 30's.

I checked out http://www.activeankle.com/ and those things look awfully difficult to wear compared to traditional ankle braces/wraps. Are they that much better? do you notice it, when you are wearing them?

-thanks

ScottParks Tue Oct 15, 2002 03:43pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Troward
Quote:


I checked out http://www.activeankle.com/ and those things look awfully difficult to wear compared to traditional ankle braces/wraps. Are they that much better? do you notice it, when you are wearing them?

-thanks
When my son tore up his ankle last season, we purchased these for both his ankles....... he had to wear them to play or Dad so he can't play.

He did complain about them being less comfortable where the plate crosses under the sole of the foot. We had his taped by the trainer before each game to make them more comfortable.

I also talked to the coach of the Girls varsity and their trainer..... they buy them for each player and insist they wear them for every game, practice and workout.

DrakeM Tue Oct 15, 2002 08:39pm

All I know is this.
I was playing "rec" ball one day last summer.
I was leaving that afternoon for a WNBA game.
I went up a couple of times for a rebound and on the third jump, "TWIST!" Luckily, it wasn't too bad and I didn't lose
the game or THE REST OF MY SCHEDULE!
It doesn't matter if you play with people you know, you can't control certain aspects.
If you have any kind of schedule you want to KEEP,
stick to other kinds of exercise. JMHO

Camron Rust Wed Oct 16, 2002 11:12am

Quote:

Originally posted by Troward

I checked out http://www.activeankle.com/ and those things look awfully difficult to wear compared to traditional ankle braces/wraps. Are they that much better? do you notice it, when you are wearing them?

-thanks

They are a little awkward to put on at first and feel really uncomfortable at first. After 2-3 times of wearing them, you get used to them. They don't exactly disappear, but they are certainly tolerable. Just do NOT put them on backwards, they hurt!!! At my playing ability, they don't have any affect on my game.

For some "pros" it may hamper their lateral cuts some. For protection, you can't beat them. They prevent most sprains completely. For the ones they don't prevent, they limit the severity.

I've also worn them while reffing after I sprained an ankle by stepping on a foot along the sideline while I was running from trail ot lead. They made no difference there other than the protection and extra stability.

At one point in the past, my ankles were so unstable (from previous unprotected sprains) that I had to be careful walking across a field. If I stepped on a small lump unevenly, my ankle would often give and I would fall to the ground. With continued exercise, I've strengthened them where that is not a problem anymore. But, I still wear the braces whenever I play to avoid going through that again.

While you should stay off a sprain until the swelling is gone, they let you return to activity sooner without the risk of reinjury from weakened ankles.

rainmaker Wed Oct 16, 2002 02:45pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Andy
Good question...

I stopped playing a few years after I started officiating.

My problem was that I was always telling the rec league officials how to officiate.

My revelation came when a rec league offical asked me during a game: So you think you can do this job better?

I told him that there was no doubt about that and got tossed. Last rec league game I played in.


LOL!!!

Refneck Fri Oct 18, 2002 11:11am

Quote:

Originally posted by Andy
Good question...

I stopped playing a few years after I started officiating.

My problem was that I was always telling the rec league officials how to officiate.

My revelation came when a rec league offical asked me during a game: So you think you can do this job better?

I told him that there was no doubt about that and got tossed. Last rec league game I played in.


My problem is that the guys I play pick-up with always look to me to make a call on a close play or they need a rules interpretation. I don't mind if it's a game I am watching, but while playing, it's a pain.

AK ref SE Fri Oct 18, 2002 11:41am

Refneck-
When you play you are a player, I used to get the same thing....After telling them that I am playing not reffing they got the hint. JMO!

AK ref SE

deeno27 Tue Oct 22, 2002 10:26pm

I play and officiate softball, volleyball, and basketball. I find it hard to do both in the same season without my husband putting out an APB on me.

There is only so much time in a week. The way I look at it, I only have so many more years of playing left in me, and I want to take advantage of every last one of them (I'll be 31 in a few weeks).

Diana

rainmaker Tue Oct 22, 2002 11:49pm

Found this interesting little quote: "We don't stop playing because we get old. We get old because we stop playing." Satchel Paige.

I'm not sure I agree but it's interesting.

ChuckElias Wed Oct 23, 2002 08:16am

Quote:

Originally posted by rainmaker
Found this interesting little quote: "We don't stop playing because we get old. We get old because we stop playing." Satchel Paige.
Change "playing" to "having fun" and I'm with him all the way. I don't play, but I have a whole lot of fun on the court.

Chuck

DanIvey Wed Oct 23, 2002 05:43pm

Still Hammering Away
 
I am 46 years old and still play pick up basketball at the Club I belong to. Hmmmmmm, after hearing all of these 30 somethings quiting I feel pretty good. :)
I must admit though that I did miss a District Game 2 years ago because of a back injury sustained during one of those pick up games.
Dislocated fingers, sprained ankles, and stitches around the eye have also been sustained because of this lovely game we enjoy so much.
This last year I thought I might get the privledge of doing the State tourney, which fortunately I did, so as many of you stated you do I quit playing during the season....there was no way I wanted to miss that oportunity!!
If I may offer one suggestion I heard long ago:

Do not officiate basketball to "get in shape"...
Get in shape to officaite basketball.

DI

[Edited by DanIvey on Oct 23rd, 2002 at 06:00 PM]


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:59pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1