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Adam Thu Dec 16, 2010 03:18pm
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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 707886)
Re #2: I actually educated a coach once who thought the ref that blows the whistle for OB isn't by sideline, but by which official was watching the paired matchup that caused the ball to go OB.

So, in the case of the ball up top, the T has the patchup. If B knocks the ball to L's sideline, we know that the L takes the call. He thought that because the T had the matchup, that the T takes the OB call.

His thinking caught me off-guard, and also reminded me that they don't know about our mechanics, etc. But his logic was sound/reasonable for someone who didn't pay attention much to mechanics.

If I can, I'll avoid a T if it's reasonable that the coach doesn't know our mechanics. Then, get the ball inbounds quickly...
In a normal circumstance, I would agree with this approach. Perhaps I was reading more into it, but he said the coach was still angry about the no-call; so I took the response as sarcastic and T-worthy.

Judtech Thu Dec 16, 2010 03:32pm
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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 707895)
He must work 2-person. Finding the "C" is not something he normally has to do. :p
Actually I AM the "C"!! I pregame it that way!:D

Back In The Saddle Thu Dec 16, 2010 04:16pm
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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 707886)
If I can, I'll avoid a T if it's reasonable that the coach doesn't know our mechanics. Then, get the ball inbounds quickly...
While I get what you're saying...the coach's ignorance is his problem, not ours. If his behavior is out of line, ignorance notwithstanding, it needs to be addressed.

Adam Thu Dec 16, 2010 04:28pm
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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 707900)
While I get what you're saying...the coach's ignorance is his problem, not ours. If his behavior is out of line, ignorance notwithstanding, it needs to be addressed.
Right, and I have no problem with a coach asking questions out of legitimate ignorance.

However, when his ignorance is combined with anger and sarcasm....
No.

26 Year Gap Thu Dec 16, 2010 04:40pm
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Originally Posted by Judtech (Post 707897)
Actually I AM the "C"!! I pregame it that way!:D
Opposite table, I'm sure.:cool:

Judtech Thu Dec 16, 2010 08:14pm
No, b/c then I would have to walk across the floor IF I called a foul!:p

JRutledge Thu Dec 16, 2010 09:33pm
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Originally Posted by Refsmitty (Post 707639)
Thoughts for an official looking to improve handling coaches who constantly chirp even when they don't have a clue:o
When a coach does not know when to pick their spots, either ignore them or address their behavior.

All these lines are great and work well I am sure for the officials that use them, but I have found that most of them do not work universally. Work within your personality. If being a hard *** works use that. If being a soft spoken guy works, use that. If saying nothing works, use that. All situations are not the same and all coaches will not respond the same. And some of this only works because you have a reputation that a coach will respect. Nothing works all the time or some of the time. It is something you will constantly have to work on and figure out what works for you.

Peace


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