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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 12:23pm
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Good points, Jug. I noticed the same. Overall looked quite solid.

I did think he made a mistake of approaching the player he called a T on. But he was on his way to the table, and it probably wouldn't have made a difference.
Ya - that's a tough one, though I don't think a single person who will defend the player will say "the ref walked toward the player". If they do, they'll have egg on their face when they learn about referee mechanics and what we're commissioned to do.

I believe that the step that C took towards the player was in response to a question by the player, and well before any of the physical contact aspects.
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 12:40pm
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Copy of the police report:

H.S. Ref Gets Slammed | The Smoking Gun

Looks like the Ref is originally from Pittsburgh.
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Fox Sports has it now.
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Fox Sports has it now.
Going viral.
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Report: High school hoops player attacks ref during game - News | FOX Sports on MSN

High school player attacks ref
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 12:51pm
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The player is an adult (over 18) so this will stay with him pretty much the rest of his life. With an adult police record he'll be very fortunate to get into any college - if he is able to graduate from HS.
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Copy of the police report:

H.S. Ref Gets Slammed | The Smoking Gun
Found this lovely little quote from the player in the accompanying article...

"In an interview last night with police, a “remorseful” Holland appeared to blame the referees for allowing opposing players to rough him up without whistling them for fouls. Holland “stated that the referees were seeing this happen but was not calling any fouls on the opposing team.”

Of course it's the fault of the officials
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 05:41pm
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Found this lovely little quote from the player in the accompanying article...

"In an interview last night with police, a “remorseful” Holland appeared to blame the referees for allowing opposing players to rough him up without whistling them for fouls. Holland “stated that the referees were seeing this happen but was not calling any fouls on the opposing team.”

Of course it's the fault of the officials
Standard disclaimer, I'm new, wasn't there....

Does anybody see contact by the defense at the endline immediately after the throw-in? Still absolutely no excuse.
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 06:01pm
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Does anybody see contact by the defense at the endline immediately after the throw-in?
Um yeah. The C saw it also. That's why he called a foul on the white player for that contact. He had his fist up for that foul before the second push-off happened. He then called the flagrant technical foul for the second push-off by the white player.

Is your point that the calling official wrongly called the first foul on the endline contact?
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 05:49pm
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Looks like the Ref is originally from Pittsburgh.
Maybe it's just me, but does anybody else think that it might just not be the greatest idea in the world to publish the official's name on this site also. Juggler got rid of the Facebook link of the assaulter, and rightly so imo. Is this really any different?

Or is it maybe just my caring, sensitive side coming through again?
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 05:56pm
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Maybe it's just me, but does anybody else think that it might just not be the greatest idea in the world to publish the official's name on this site also. Juggler got rid of the Facebook link of the assaulter, and rightly so imo. Is this really any different?

Or is it maybe just my caring, sensitive side coming through again?
I'd go with either 1) Your meds are kicking in or 2) It is blue jello nite at The Home and it always puts you in a good mood!

IMO, names are ok Facebook pages, not so much.
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 06:03pm
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I'd go with either 1) Your meds are kicking in or 2) It is blue jello nite at The Home and it always puts you in a good mood!

IMO, names are ok Facebook pages, not so much.
Well, you should be well aware by now of what I personally think of your opinion, with or without meds or blue jello.
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 06:05pm
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well, you should be well aware by now of what i personally think of your opinion, with or without meds or blue jello.
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 06:18pm
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I'd go with either 1) Your meds are kicking in or 2) It is blue jello nite at The Home and it always puts you in a good mood!

IMO, names are ok Facebook pages, not so much.
Did you miss the police report that had part of the guy's phone number? And his Date of Birth? And part of his employer? Each of those pieces of information can be used for identity theft.

What did the Fb screen grab show? The only thing that wasn't in the newspaper report, is that this player "is in a relationship" and that he uses piss-poor grammar. (All info not related to the person personally was white'd out.)
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 06:24pm
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So I just watched the video again.

That player needs a permanent mark on his record.
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