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representing Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:54am

Push from behind
 
push from behind to the shooter's back. Intentional foul?

BktBallRef Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:59am

No. You'd have to provide more details to have an INT foul.

For example, if the defender was chasing down an opponent from behind and pushed in in the back, that would be an INT foul.

But if a defender was juked, the dribbler beats him and there's just a hand in the back similiar to a handcheck, you shouldn't call an INT foul.

JRutledge Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:59am

Not necessarily. Need more information.

Peace

representing Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:35pm

It looked to me like a frustration hit it the back. I thought all push/hits to the back were automatically int because of neck injury risks. That was what a few guys, including some vets, told me. Seems like I have to spo believing everything everyone treks me haha. Thanks. I let the other official take it because he was the lead and closer.

APG Sat Dec 11, 2010 01:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by representing (Post 706907)
It looked to me like a frustration hit it the back. I thought all push/hits to the back were automatically int because of neck injury risks. That was what a few guys, including some vets, told me. Seems like I have to spo believing everything everyone treks me haha. Thanks. I let the other official take it because he was the lead and closer.

The pushes in the back you are envisoning are most of the time intentional due simply to the fact that if you're pushing an opponent in the back, they're probably in a pretty advantageous position, and by pushing them, an opponent trying anything to make sure they don't score with that advantage (a la neutralize an opponent's advantage). Also, a push in the back has a greater change of causing excessive contact versus other fouls.

JRutledge Sat Dec 11, 2010 07:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by representing (Post 706907)
It looked to me like a frustration hit it the back. I thought all push/hits to the back were automatically int because of neck injury risks. That was what a few guys, including some vets, told me. Seems like I have to spo believing everything everyone treks me haha. Thanks. I let the other official take it because he was the lead and closer.

First of all there is no such "provision" in the rules. And you must define what you mean by "push in the back." I do not consider these only with players who use their hands. Players can push someone (or charge as that is the signal) and not do it with their hands or arms. You could have a player do that and try to play the ball and not knock the person down. Even if they do, it is not an "automatic" at all.

Peace


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