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APG Wed Dec 08, 2010 03:00pm

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Originally Posted by mikeb (Post 706206)
What i meant by that was, A1 would dribble in the lane get bumped (whistle) dribble dribble shoot, count the basket. Obvious on the floor calls.

Two points...

1. If the play happened as you said it did, that wouldn't count under NBA rules (which I'm assuming was what you were referencing by "continuation calls")

2. Avoid using "on the floor." The fact that the foul happened while the player was on the floor has no bearing on whether a foul is a shooting foul or not. It's all about the habitual shooting motion. If something must be said, "before the shot" would be better.

Adam Wed Dec 08, 2010 03:02pm

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Originally Posted by allpurposegamer (Post 706209)
two points...

1. If the play happened as you said it did, that wouldn't count under nba rules (which i'm assuming was what you were referencing by "continuation calls")

2. Avoid using "on the floor." the fact that the foul happened while the player was on the floor has no bearing on whether a foul is a shooting foul or not. It's all about the habitual shooting motion. If something must be said, "before the shot" would be better.

+7

BillyMac Wed Dec 08, 2010 06:26pm

Never, Ever ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 706209)
Avoid using "On The Floor."

Agree. These three words should never be used by officials in describing a continuation play and the act of shooting.

I prefer, "No shot".

zm1283 Thu Dec 09, 2010 02:03am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 706262)
Agree. These three words should never be used by officials in describing a continuation play and the act of shooting.

I prefer, "No shot".

I use "No shot" as well and wave off the shot before giving the preliminary signal for the foul followed by the throw-in spot or signal how many shots we're shooting for the bonus.

APG Thu Dec 09, 2010 03:45am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 706262)
Agree. These three words should never be used by officials in describing a continuation play and the act of shooting.

I prefer, "No shot".

I'll use this too along with the mechanics zm1283 described...the important thing is getting rid of the phrase, "on the floor." :D

bob jenkins Thu Dec 09, 2010 08:29am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 706262)
Agree. These three words should never be used by officials in describing a continuation play and the act of shooting.

I prefer, "No shot".

Well, there usually is a shot. So, I say "before the shot."

mbyron Thu Dec 09, 2010 08:33am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 706210)
+7

Whatever happened to "one man, one vote"? :(

Scrapper1 Thu Dec 09, 2010 09:21am

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 706340)
Whatever happened to "one man, one vote"? :(

It went out with the 19th Amendment.

tomegun Thu Dec 09, 2010 09:36am

Mike,

Like others have said, we were all there at one time. I found your post somewhat hard to read. I don't think I'm alone and that is why some people didn't understand what you mean. The other thing, if you don't think he did a good job, why tell him he did? I have a growing list of things we do as officials for the sake of tradition that are useless. Telling someone they did a good job instead of "nice working with you" or being honest is on that list. Who does it help to tell someone something that isn't true?

Adam Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:23am

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Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 706352)
Mike,

Like others have said, we were all there at one time. I found your post somewhat hard to read. I don't think I'm alone and that is why some people didn't understand what you mean. The other thing, if you don't think he did a good job, why tell him he did? I have a growing list of things we do as officials for the sake of tradition that are useless. Telling someone they did a good job instead of "nice working with you" or being honest is on that list. Who does it help to tell someone something that isn't true?

I almost always say "nice working with you," because it's almost always true. Whether I worked with a rookie on his 2nd game, or a veteran in his 42nd year, I typically enjoy myself.

Camron Rust Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:57am

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 706340)
Whatever happened to "one man, one vote"? :(

He's a democrat.

26 Year Gap Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:28pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 706405)
He's a democrat.

Or he is dead.

Adam Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:29pm

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 706421)
Or he is dead.

Those reports have been exaggerated, greatly.

26 Year Gap Thu Dec 09, 2010 01:00pm

Happens to me all the time....
 
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 706422)
Those reports have been exaggerated, greatly.

http://www.scottstander.com/Store/Ab...e-vigoda-3.jpg

Mark Padgett Thu Dec 09, 2010 01:43pm

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Originally Posted by mikeb (Post 706208)
he was an older gentleman i would guess 40s or 50s

ouch!


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