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cmhjordan23 Sat Dec 04, 2010 01:30am

Here's a first. What would you call.
 
Had a girl's 6th grade game. Loose ball, she doesn't grab it or kick it. She puts her foot on top of ball and stops it like a soccer ball. Not sure there is anything in the rule book for that. My partner and I looked at each with a smile and wondered, is that legal?

just another ref Sat Dec 04, 2010 01:40am

Violation. Any intentional contact with the leg or foot is considered a kick.

APG Sat Dec 04, 2010 02:05am

Kick ball

Nevadaref Sat Dec 04, 2010 05:21am

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Originally Posted by cmhjordan23 (Post 705193)
Had a girl's 6th grade game. Loose ball, she doesn't grab it or kick it. She puts her foot on top of ball and stops it like a soccer ball. Not sure there is anything in the rule book for that. My partner and I looked at each with a smile and wondered, is that legal?

She doesn't?

Do you and your partner read the NFHS books?

Rule 4, SECTION 29 KICKING THE BALL
Kicking the ball is intentionally striking it with any part of the leg or foot.

KICKING THE BALL
4.29 SITUATION: During A1's attempt to pass to A2, B1 (a) intentionally uses
his/her thigh to deflect the pass
; (b) intentionally kicks the ball with his/her foot;
or (c) has the ball accidentally hit his/her lower leg. RULING: In (a) and (b), there
is a kicking violation
and Team A will receive the ball out of bounds nearest the
violation. In (c), the ball remains live and there is no violation. (9-4)

cmhjordan23 Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:50pm

And I'm sure you remember every exact word cover to cover. Yes we read the book. Sometimes just forget the exact language

Camron Rust Sat Dec 04, 2010 01:36pm

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Originally Posted by cmhjordan23 (Post 705230)
And I'm sure you remember every exact word cover to cover. Yes we read the book. Sometimes just forget the exact language

You don't need to know word for word...you don't use your feet/legs to play the ball.

JugglingReferee Sat Dec 04, 2010 03:25pm

The likely cause for a misunderstanding is that most people associate a kick with projecting the ball with a foot.

NV provided the textbook definition, but sometimes elements like "stopping a rolling ball with a foot" is forgotten to meet the criteria of a kicked ball.

In this way, basketball and soccer are opposites.

bainsey Sat Dec 04, 2010 03:31pm

Simply put, was the ball intentionally played with the leg? If so, violation.

Another case: Loose ball. A-1 is sitting on the floor, and the ball bounces to him. A-1 squeezes the ball between his legs to secure it. This is also a violation.

Mark Padgett Sat Dec 04, 2010 09:06pm

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 705249)
Another case: Loose ball. A-1 is sitting on the floor, and the ball bounces to him. A-1 squeezes the ball between his legs to secure it. This is also a violation.

And, you should tell A1 and the ball to get a room. :rolleyes:

Judtech Sat Dec 04, 2010 09:09pm

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 705249)
Simply put, was the ball intentionally played with the leg? If so, violation.

Another case: Loose ball. A-1 is sitting on the floor, and the ball bounces to him. A-1 squeezes the ball between his legs to secure it. This is also a violation.

And we know how painful THAT can be!

Nevadaref Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:20pm

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Originally Posted by cmhjordan23 (Post 705230)
And I'm sure you remember every exact word cover to cover. Yes we read the book. Sometimes just forget the exact language

As many posters on this forum can attest, yes, I do. :cool:

refnrev Sun Dec 05, 2010 08:26pm

He pretty much does!!!:)

Adam Sun Dec 05, 2010 08:27pm

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Originally Posted by refnrev (Post 705529)
He pretty much does!!!:)

Yep, and he's equally condescending to anyone who makes a mistake. He's an equal opportunity condescender.

refnrev Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:17am

True story!

Welpe Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:24am

Ah the joy of middle school ball. If it can happen, it's probably going to happen there.


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