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Rich Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:24pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 709714)
Yeah? Right? In twenty years I'll be so old that I'll be wearing my belt up around my nipples.

That will work out, if your nipples are down around your knees.

This does mean one thing, though -- you should stay with the latest trends for wherever you are. If you're the only one wearing a belt or flat front pants or using a pea whistle, why be that guy?

Bad Zebra Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:33pm

Bought my first pair of Smitty's earlier this season. Honestly, I don't see a big difference with Sansabelt in terms of quality or fit, so I'll probably stick with Smitty's at the lower price. The Smitty's seem to run a little smaller in the waist so I didn't have to have them taken in this pair (saved $$$ there too).

I'll look at them at the end of the season to see if they held up as well after the repeated laundering.

tjones1 Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:34pm

Are there still officials who use a pea whistle?

BillyMac Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:35pm

After All, It's Christmas ...
 
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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 709723)
Using a pea whistle.

Hey. Let's not encourage Mark Padgett. Let's have no posts about the first rule of officiating.

Rich Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:37pm

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Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 709728)
Are there still officials who use a pea whistle?

There's one guy I've worked with in the past who (I think) uses a pea whistle and wears a belt mainly to annoy other officials.

Adam Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:39pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 709731)
There's one guy I've worked with in the past who (I think) uses a pea whistle and wears a belt mainly to annoy other officials.

Okay, this makes me laugh.

Mark Padgett Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:43pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 709714)
Yeah? Right? In twenty years I'll be so old that I'll be wearing my belt up around my nipples.

Either that, or you'll have Dunlap syndrome. That's where your stomach dun lap over your pants. I suffer from that now. ;)

Back In The Saddle Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:51pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 709734)
Either that, or you'll have Dunlap syndrome. That's where your stomach dun lap over your pants. I suffer from that now. ;)

I had somebody tell me once that he didn't have "dunlap disease", cuz he wasn't done lapping over his belt. :D

mj Thu Dec 23, 2010 01:36pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 709656)
Like all matters of style, this wheel continues to turn. Right now, to advance and to look proper you wear pleats and no belt. If you stay in it more than 20 years, you'll see it change. :shrug:

So I shouldn't get rid of my Byron collared shirts?

ref2coach Thu Dec 23, 2010 01:39pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 709731)
There's one guy I've worked with in the past who (I think) uses a pea whistle and wears a belt mainly to annoy other officials.

We have one of those in our association. Very good official, funny with a quick dry wit. Loves if someone asks him about the whistle or the belt, they become the butt of his wit the rest of the evening. :rolleyes:

just another ref Thu Dec 23, 2010 02:06pm

The pealess whistle literally speaks for itself. It's a matter of superior tone and volume. (It's easier to hear) If there is no specific dress code, but we should
"wear beltless pants if we wish to advance," I don't get that.

JRutledge Thu Dec 23, 2010 02:19pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 709758)
The pealess whistle literally speaks for itself. It's a matter of superior tone and volume. (It's easier to hear) If there is no specific dress code, but we should
"wear beltless pants if we wish to advance," I don't get that.

Because it looks more professional. You had to go out and buy a pair of pants that fit and you can run in. Wearing a belt suggests you just went around to your local Wal-Mart and picked up a pair of pants. The same as it looks silly as a football and baseball umpire to not buy at hat that fits and use and adjustable hat. It is about perception and when you are the only person doing that, this questions what other things you might have cut corners on. People are looking for "why not" not "why."

Peace

BillyMac Thu Dec 23, 2010 02:20pm

Give Them Back To mbyron ...
 
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Originally Posted by mj (Post 709749)
So I shouldn't get rid of my Byron collared shirts?

No. Return them.

Cobra Thu Dec 23, 2010 02:46pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 709768)
Because it looks more professional. You had to go out and buy a pair of pants that fit and you can run in. Wearing a belt suggests you just went around to your local Wal-Mart and picked up a pair of pants. The same as it looks silly as a football and baseball umpire to not buy at hat that fits and use and adjustable hat. It is about perception and when you are the only person doing that, this questions what other things you might have cut corners on. People are looking for "why not" not "why."

Peace

That has nothing to do with it. Belted pants are not less professional. Byron collar shirts are not less professional. Shirts with side panels are not less professional. These are just fashion issues, in a few years everything will have changed again.

Adam Thu Dec 23, 2010 02:55pm

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Originally Posted by Cobra (Post 709775)
That has nothing to do with it. Belted pants are not less professional. Byron collar shirts are not less professional. Shirts with side panels are not less professional. These are just fashion issues, in a few years everything will have changed again.

He didn't say it was more professional. He said it looks more professional, and he's right. Like it or not, it looks more professional to do as the majority does. That's true for the kind of pants you wear, whether you get patent leather, what kind of lanyard you use, whether you have side panels, which patches you wear, whether you wear glasses on the court, etc.

Jeff's right, perception matters.


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