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chseagle Sat Nov 20, 2010 08:35pm
Freddy, this idea would actually be highly useful in noisy gyms.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 702265)
Some of us here use the hand on the side of the bench of the team which committed the foul, while also communicating the team color and number ("Blue foul...number eleven"). Took about five games to get used to a couple of years ago. Purely natural now. This also avoids the otherwise popular and oft-construed as accusatory point to the bench which committed the foul. Table is informed of this prior to the game. Some "table officials" mention how this use of which hand helps clarify for them which team is credited with the foul.
Is this common in other areas?

Scrapper1 Sat Nov 20, 2010 08:41pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 702265)
("Blue foul...number eleven").
Why say "foul"? You wouldn't be over there giving a number unless you were reporting a foul. Why say "number"? Just give the number. "Blue, eleven" and give the signal for the infraction (no need to verbalize). JMHO

Freddy Sat Nov 20, 2010 08:50pm
Maybe not the Best Reason, but...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 702267)
Why say "foul"? You wouldn't be over there giving a number unless you were reporting a foul. Why say "number"? Just give the number. "Blue, eleven" and give the signal for the infraction (no need to verbalize). JMHO
"Blue foul, eleven" was rammed into my head by one particular camp clinician over the course of several years (same camp UP Mick attended regularly, if anyone out there knew him). Your helpful critique prompts me to say that I don't say the word "number," just give the number while signifying fingerly.
I appreciate your response, Scrapper1.

26 Year Gap Sat Nov 20, 2010 09:13pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 702265)
Some of us here use the hand on the side of the bench of the team which committed the foul, while also communicating the team color and number ("Blue foul...number eleven"). Took about five games to get used to a couple of years ago. Purely natural now. This also avoids the otherwise popular and oft-construed as accusatory point to the bench which committed the foul. Table is informed of this prior to the game. Some "table officials" mention how this use of which hand helps clarify for them which team is credited with the foul.
Is this common in other areas?
I have never heard this. It does make sense. But, I don't switch my spare whistle from pocket to pocket to mirror the AP arrow, either.

Camron Rust Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:40pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 702195)
A cliffhanger on the Forum? C'mon. The suspense is killing me. Please elaborate.

(Traveling is moving a foot or feet in any direction in excess of prescribed limits
while holding the ball.)
Hint: Start with a player lying/sitting/kneeling on the floor...

bob jenkins Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:09pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 702265)
Some of us here use the hand on the side of the bench of the team which committed the foul, while also communicating the team color and number ("Blue foul...number eleven"). Took about five games to get used to a couple of years ago. Purely natural now. This also avoids the otherwise popular and oft-construed as accusatory point to the bench which committed the foul. Table is informed of this prior to the game. Some "table officials" mention how this use of which hand helps clarify for them which team is credited with the foul.
Is this common in other areas?
That's generally what I do, but I don't kn ow of the table notices it, and I don't make a point to tell them

BillyMac Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:15pm
Thanks For The Hint ...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 702285)
Start with a player lying/sitting/kneeling on the floor.
You mean the one where the player, on the ground with the ball, places the ball on the floor, stands up, and picks up the ball? Thanks for the hint Camron Rust. I never would have gotten it without your help.

BillyMac Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:21pm
Are You Deaf ??? Oh ??? Sorry !!! Nevermind ...
 
Our local board officiates games at a high school for the deaf (great basketball program). In some cases one of the teams is not hearing impaired, but often both teams, and their scorekeepers, are hearing impaired. When officiating these games we start out by pointing to the offending bench before reporting the foul.

BillyMac Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:31pm
Connecticuters ???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 702268)
"Blue foul, eleven".
In my little corner of Connecticut it's, "Blue. One. One. Push." I realize that the NFHS, and IAABO, mechanics manual states to only signal, not verbalize, the infraction. I also realize that there has been debate on the Forum regarding, "One. One.", or, "Eleven.", but as St. Ambrose said, "When in Connecticut, do as Connecticuters do.", or something like that.

26 Year Gap Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:36pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 702349)
In my little corner of Connecticut it's, "Blue. One. One. Push." I realize that the NFHS, and IAABO, mechanics manual states to only signal, not verbalize, the infraction. I also realize that there has been debate on the Forum regarding, "One. One.", or, "Eleven.", but as St. Ambrose said, "When in Connecticut, do as Connecticuters do.", or something like that.
Even back door Connecticuters?

Freddy Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:22pm
When In . . .
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 702349)
. . . as St. Ambrose said, "When in Connecticut, do as Connecticuters do.", or something like that.
Or as Shishmaref Ref would say, "When in Nome, do as the Nomans do."

Haven't heard from our westernmost officiating buddy for a while on this board. Hope all's well with him. He officiates in what has to be absolutely the most widespread conference in the USA, the Bering Straits School District. Amazing travel logistics!

Amesman Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:15pm
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Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 702472)
Or as Shishmaref Ref would say, "When in Nome, do as the Nomans do."

Haven't heard from our westernmost officiating buddy for a while on this board. Hope all's well with him. He officiates in what has to be absolutely the most widespread conference in the USA, the Bering Straits School District. Amazing travel logistics!
Heard one of his sled dogs blew out a couple of toenails and he got to a game late last week.

bainsey Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:46pm
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 702252)
Just tell the table "it counts towards his 5."
I like this, but would it even be better to say, "it counts toward his five and the team's ten"?

26 Year Gap Mon Nov 22, 2010 02:10pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 702513)
I like this, but would it even be better to say, "it counts toward his five and the team's ten"?
Unless they are already at 10.

Ed Maeder Mon Nov 22, 2010 02:21pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 702195)
A cliffhanger on the Forum? C'mon. The suspense is killing me. Please elaborate.

(Traveling is moving a foot or feet in any direction in excess of prescribed limits
while holding the ball.)
There are actually two situations when you can call traveling without holding the ball.


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