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chseagle Sat Nov 20, 2010 01:32am

NCAA Basketball played on an aircraft carrier?? Could happen
 
Get ready for UNC vs. Michigan State on an aircraft carrier - The Dagger - NCAAB - Yahoo! Sports

After reading the article, what are your thoughts of this idea?

Also where else should a basketball game be played that would help the game in publicity?

Jurassic Referee Sat Nov 20, 2010 07:38am

My thoughts are that they should only land jets during TO's.

The Globetrotters played a game on an aircraft carrier many, many years ago.

grunewar Sat Nov 20, 2010 08:03am

And the Navy dropped them off on Gilligan's Island, right?
 
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 702154)
The Globetrotters played a game on an aircraft carrier many, many years ago.

We all know where this thread is going......now, where is that International Date Line again? :rolleyes:

chseagle Sat Nov 20, 2010 08:06am

LMAO The aircraft carrier would be in port for the game.

Maybe use one of the decommissioned units.

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 702161)
We all know where this thread is going......now, where is that International Time Line again? :rolleyes:


grunewar Sat Nov 20, 2010 09:22am

Swing and a Miss.......
 
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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 702162)
LMAO The aircraft carrier would be in port for the game.

It's kind of an "inside joke" with some of the more long-standing members of the Forum.

Here's one link started by, you know who..... http://forum.officiating.com/basketb...call-dave.html

Judtech Sat Nov 20, 2010 09:27am

I absolutely love the idea. Glad to hear the ship will not be at sea!! Talk about playing the wind for your jump shot!!
Further, thoughts:
1 Cheerleaders would be a must. It was a lloooonnnngggg cruise!
2. Great way to honor service men/women.
3. Several places you could hold the game. The flight deck could pose a problem although using an arrester cable as OB's would be intersting
4. The losing teams fans/boosters may want not want their team to leave the ship.
5. Glad the ship will be in port. However, it would be interesting to see them 'play the wind' on jump shots!!
6. It would be EVEN BETTER if the AC was in port somewhere in the Middle East. Have some of the frontline troops get a chance to see a game live.
Ok that is my quick list. I will now return to my seat.

Mark Padgett Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:30pm

You guys have good memories. :)

BillyMac Sat Nov 20, 2010 01:30pm

The Thrill Of Victory, The Agony Of Defeat ...
 
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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 702190)
You guys have good memories.

The Harlem Globetrotters played a game on the U.S.S. Enterprise aircraft carrier around 1966. I remember watching the game on ABC's Wide World of Sports.

http://harlemglobetrotters.com.ismme...2c8cbf.200.jpg

26 Year Gap Sat Nov 20, 2010 02:25pm

Well, I hope they center the court properly. Would hate to see the NCAA step in with another Wrigley Field edict.

BillyMac Sat Nov 20, 2010 03:07pm

Man Overboard ...
 
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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 702203)
Well, I hope they center the court properly. Would hate to see the NCAA step in with another Wrigley Field edict.

If a player violates the backcourt rule, he'd better be able to swim.

BktBallRef Sat Nov 20, 2010 06:34pm

This one brings back great memories.

mick was a Michigan State fan. Every season, he would email me early on, telling me what Sparty had and asking me about the Heels. He always treaded Carolina-Michigan State games because they were his two favorite teams. He always pulled for the Spartans but he was also a closet Tar Heel fan.

They met many times over the past few years, twice in the Final Four in '05 and '09 and several times in the ACC-Big Ten challenge. He would always email me before/after the game. I guess I've now become a closet Spartan.

Whether they next meet on an aircraft carrier, in the Final Four, or on the moon, I bet mick will be watching.

:)

chseagle Sat Nov 20, 2010 06:35pm

It's my understanding it was the conference, not the NCAA that made the Wrigley change.

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 702203)
Well, I hope they center the court properly. Would hate to see the NCAA step in with another Wrigley Field edict.

According to the article they would like to do a doubleheader with two service academies playing beforehand.

How about Navy vs. Air Force?

Judtech Sat Nov 20, 2010 06:39pm

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 702235)
It's my understanding it was the conference, not the NCAA that made the Wrigley change.



According to the article they would like to do a doubleheader with two service academies playing beforehand.

How about Navy vs. Air Force?

I would prefer Navy v Army. After all, the Navy are the ones who have to transport the green grunts to where they are going!
Again, I would love to see this played overseas and made military only. ESPN could/would broadcast it and it would be great PR all around. Especially, if $$ went to the Wounded Warrior fund or something of that ilk. If they just have it on the Intrepid or something in NY, I wouldn't be as big a fan. Also, remember these things are HUGE! They could play it "indoors" and STILL have flight operations. That would be fun!

Adam Sat Nov 20, 2010 06:49pm

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Originally Posted by Judtech (Post 702236)
I would prefer Navy v Army. After all, the Navy are the ones who have to transport the green grunts to where they are going!
Again, I would love to see this played overseas and made military only. ESPN could/would broadcast it and it would be great PR all around. Especially, if $$ went to the Wounded Warrior fund or something of that ilk. If they just have it on the Intrepid or something in NY, I wouldn't be as big a fan. Also, remember these things are HUGE! They could play it "indoors" and STILL have flight operations. That would be fun!

Really?

When I flew overseas for my deployment, there were plenty of soldiers on my Air Force transport. I've not heard of any troops going in by Navy ship in quite some time.

chseagle Sat Nov 20, 2010 07:01pm

Judtech, the only problem is if they had the game setup where it was for personnel overseas would be security depending on the location.

Perhaps have the carrier ported in Japan or how about a memorial game to be played on Dec. 7 with carrier in/near Pearl Harbor.

Actually having Army vs. Navy would make the most sense as both are the oldest services, since technically the Air Force was originally part of the Army (Army Air Corps).

Yeah the hanger deck could be used to host the game.

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Originally Posted by Judtech (Post 702236)
I would prefer Navy v Army. After all, the Navy are the ones who have to transport the green grunts to where they are going!
Again, I would love to see this played overseas and made military only. ESPN could/would broadcast it and it would be great PR all around. Especially, if $$ went to the Wounded Warrior fund or something of that ilk. If they just have it on the Intrepid or something in NY, I wouldn't be as big a fan. Also, remember these things are HUGE! They could play it "indoors" and STILL have flight operations. That would be fun!


Judtech Sat Nov 20, 2010 08:17pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 702241)
Really?

When I flew overseas for my deployment, there were plenty of soldiers on my Air Force transport. I've not heard of any troops going in by Navy ship in quite some time.

Alot of the equipment still is delivered via Navy. But you make my point: The Army wouldn't know where to go without someone pointing them in the right direction!! :D

grunewar Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:08pm

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Originally Posted by Judtech (Post 702264)
Alot of the equipment still is delivered via Navy. But you make my point: The Army wouldn't know where to go without someone pointing them in the right direction!! :D

Really? Me thinks not..... :rolleyes:

Adam Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:46pm

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 702279)
Really? Me thinks not..... :rolleyes:

Yeah, they could get there, but would take a lot longer by helicopter.

26 Year Gap Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:43am

Seems like this angle wasn't in the original thread. What if the carrier was headed due north or south while straddling the international date line and half of the court was on either side of the dateline lengthwise?

lpneck Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:54pm

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 702253)
how about a memorial game to be played on Dec. 7 with carrier in/near Pearl Harbor.

I am going to make the assumption that you have never been to Pearl Harbor, so that I can believe that you have no concept of how awful and offensive an idea this is.

Pearl Harbor is the most solemn, reverent, location I have ever been to in my life.

The idea of holding a college basketball game on a naval ship there is beyond ridiculous.

Judtech Sun Nov 21, 2010 02:54pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 702291)
Yeah, they could get there, but would take a lot longer by helicopter.

Especially when they get cold and try to turn that big fan off on top of the machine!!:p

JRutledge Sun Nov 21, 2010 04:29pm

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Originally Posted by lpneck (Post 702362)
I am going to make the assumption that you have never been to Pearl Harbor, so that I can believe that you have no concept of how awful and offensive an idea this is.

Pearl Harbor is the most solemn, reverent, location I have ever been to in my life.

The idea of holding a college basketball game on a naval ship there is beyond ridiculous.

What if Army played Navy in that capacity? Not saying that should happen, but I am wondering.

Peace

26 Year Gap Sun Nov 21, 2010 04:38pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 702435)
What if Army played Navy in that capacity? Not saying that should happen, but I am wondering.

Peace

I am sure those in the service would render their opinions on that eventuality. But, I think it might not be much different than holding the Army-Navy football game in Flanders Fields.

chseagle Sun Nov 21, 2010 06:36pm

I have never been to Hawaii period, however since next year is the 60th anniversary of "The Day which shall live in infamy" something special should be done. Especially since we have fewer Pearl Harbor Survivors every year & too many seem to forget about December 7th.

They could do the Army-Navy Basketball Game on the carrier & the Army-Navy Football Game in Honolulu in the same weekend/week.

Every battlefield, no matter what war, is a place of solemn reflection, a place of reverence.

Perhaps the funds raised from the games could go to upkeep/preservation of Pearl Harbor. Guests of Honor could be Pearl Harbor Survivors &/or their families. A moment of silence can be held in memory of all who lost their lives.

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Originally Posted by lpneck (Post 702362)
I am going to make the assumption that you have never been to Pearl Harbor, so that I can believe that you have no concept of how awful and offensive an idea this is.

Pearl Harbor is the most solemn, reverent, location I have ever been to in my life.

The idea of holding a college basketball game on a naval ship there is beyond ridiculous.


lpneck Sun Nov 21, 2010 07:45pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 702435)
What if Army played Navy in that capacity? Not saying that should happen, but I am wondering.

Peace

It would never happen. Pearl Harbor is a graveyard. It would be like lining a football field at Arlington National Cemetery and playing a game on it.

Service men and women "man the rails"- standing at attention in full uniform on the deck of military vessels- as they pass through the harbor in respect.

Wikipedia- Manning the Rails

chseagle Sun Nov 21, 2010 08:03pm

Ipneck, my father is a 20 year veteran of the Navy, my maternal grandfather was at Hickam Field, Schofield Barracks that morning.

I know what manning the rails means.

I mentioned near as a suggestion, not in.

Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam has several berths that the carrier to can be tied to which would not be near the Arizona.

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Originally Posted by lpneck (Post 702456)
It would never happen. Pearl Harbor is a graveyard. It would be like lining a football field at Arlington National Cemetery and playing a game on it.

Service men and women "man the rails"- standing at attention in full uniform on the deck of military vessels- as they pass through the harbor in respect.

Wikipedia- Manning the Rails


Adam Sun Nov 21, 2010 09:20pm

I've been there, I've been to the Arizona twice. But the base itself is fully active ang engaged. I really don't see a huge problem with it as long as it's not done in close proximity to the Arizona.
Perhaps in the name of inter-service relations, it could be held off the shore of Kaneohe Bay.


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