So getting back to the original topic - are there things any of us do or try in order to get partners "on the same page"???? One of the things I have tried - with varying degrees of success (usually dependent on partner's experience level) is to simply ask questions during a time-out..."Hey partner, what are you seeing in the paint? Am I missing something in there?" Or "Hey, I'm really uncomfortable with the amount of contact in the paint. Are you feeling the same way?" Sometimes all it takes is getting the other official to realize there is a concern, and then they step it up...any other ideas out there???
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You still have to call your own game.
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During dead ball time we do those those things. And something like, "The coach has been asking us to": "...look for handchecking." "...watch the grabbing." "...call more traveling." "...look for over-the-backs." Also, "I didn't see your fist. I didn't know what you had." "Could you help me with a direction so I know where to go?" "What did you see over there?" With regular partners, it's much different. Sometimes a joke, a pretty face, ...most times nothing. mick |
Switching on all fouls per the manual is the best way to balance out the calls, when you have a partner that calls a game tighter or looser than you. I don't regularly work with the same partner or crew. Sometimes during a break, I might tell my crew, "We've got to tighten up a little" or "I've let a little too much contact go." On the floor, I try not to tell my partner directly that he's screwing up the game. By blaming myself, or taking joint responsibility, I hope to send a message. In the lockerroom, at halftime or after the game, I'm more direct.
I've never had a partner tell me to lighten up on my whistle. I have had them tell me to go out and get certain calls. That's fine. I take no offense. But the "veteran JV" official usually is a hopeless case. |
I have had a partner over the last couple years, that everytime that I call with him, It seems that we are never on the same page. At first I tried to adjust to his game, Well those games just got uglier and uglier. So I decide to call my game the best way I knew how. I watch my primary area, called what I saw, did not try to even things up or make calls that simply weren't there. If he had 20 calls and I had none or vice versus so be it. There will partners out there that we are in complete harmony with, and then we will have partners that are not. Just call your game to the best of your ability and it will all come out in the end. I agree with the person who made the comment about the evaluator in the crowd, because that happened to me early on. I tried to mirror my partner and I got chewed up and spit out, and was told by the evaluator that you need to deal with your game!
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I don't think I ever advocated mirroring anyone, but if a game is too physical I will certainly try to get my partner to step it up some...having said that, if one of my partners makes a call at one end, and then I have a play at the other end that looks the same, feels the same, sounds the same, smells the same, etc - for the sake of crew integrity I need to call it the same as my partner did... |
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It is exactly because of the fact that my integrity is on the line that I need to make the effort to be "in synch" with my partners...again, I am not saying that I will make up calls, or try to mirror them if they aren't calling anything...but the integrity of myself and my partners goes right out the window when the exact same play is called in two (or more) different ways each time it happens...
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Hmmmm.
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That is sometimes a hard line to follow, especially when your partner kicks a rule. <LI>example: a jump shot get touched hard enough to stop the release - partner calls a travel. (You won't make that call, like you said, because it ain't right) <LI>example: a jump stop and your partner calls a travel - same ol', same ol' <LI>example: dribbler gets lightly measured once, partner calls a handcheck - I find it hard to believe you'll follow your partner's lead. On the level that you officiate, I would guess your partner that is screwing up better follow your lead. mick |
You will be judged alone.
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Question about Questions from a Coach
If by any strange happenstance I notice (or believe) that the refs are not consistent between themselves, is there anything I can do as a coach? For example, would I be out of line to ask one of the refs about it during halftime? For example would the following be out of line?
"I've noticed some difference in the way you two are calling certain things. Do you guys think you could talk it over?" Would this approach be likely to offend? I know if there is some way to communicate without being confrontational, everybody is better off. On the other hand, am I better off biting my tongue and just hoping it will all even out in the end? |
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Now, yer screwin' with me. I'll bet my Foxes that you'll call what you call because of what <u>you saw</u> and not what your partner thought he saw. :) mick |
In CYO, you are not necessarily getting the best refs in the world to begin with. A little talking won't hurt a thing. You can get one of two reactions. If you ask correctly you will get. "Yes coach I hear ya." If you don't then one of the officials will get upset and drop the T. Either way you are getting a point across. If you see one of the officials trying to talk with the other official, then you don't need to say anything. The first official realizes what is going on and he is trying to do something about it.
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