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Back In The Saddle Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:04am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 698339)
So who gets the direct?

The team's scorekeeper.

GoodwillRef Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:22pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 698170)
So did ours, but no penalty was described if they did. Figures.

Darn, now I have to stay awake for pregame warm-ups just in case.

Rich Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:34pm

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Originally Posted by GoodwillRef (Post 698426)
Darn, now I have to stay awake for pregame warm-ups just in case.

I have little eye stickers I put on over my eyelids, so I can sleep standing up with nobody knowing. Does any other state require officials to take the court at TWENTY minutes?

mbyron Wed Oct 27, 2010 03:45pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 698430)
Does any other state require officials to take the court at TWENTY minutes?

Yes.

Kingsman1288 Wed Oct 27, 2010 04:41pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 698339)
So who gets the direct?

From what I was told, no one does. The penalty is simply an indirect to the head coach.

Scrapper1 Wed Oct 27, 2010 04:47pm

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Originally Posted by Kingsman1288 (Post 698471)
From what I was told, no one does. The penalty is simply an indirect to the head coach.

In NFHS rules, you CAN'T have only an indirect to the head coach. In NFHS, the indirect is only given when a direct technical foul is assessed to a member of bench personnel.

walter Wed Oct 27, 2010 07:59pm

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 698260)
So here's a question for everyone.

My alma mater has been doing the full court lap for warmups since before I attended there, what can be done to cease this "unsporting" activity since it is actually illegal to do?

Our state wants it banged since this is not new. The full court lap, huddling in the center circle, full court use for warmups, etc. They want a "T" issued to the head coach and he loses the coaching box. Doesn't matter whether he/she is there or not when it happens.

Kingsman1288 Thu Oct 28, 2010 03:07am

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 698474)
In NFHS rules, you CAN'T have only an indirect to the head coach. In NFHS, the indirect is only given when a direct technical foul is assessed to a member of bench personnel.

Duhhh...major brain fart on my part. Good thing I had it now and not during the season :o

Maybe it was a direct to the coach? I'm getting conflicting answers so I'm just going to email the state office.

Nevadaref Thu Oct 28, 2010 05:17am

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Originally Posted by Kingsman1288 (Post 698562)
Duhhh...major brain fart on my part. Good thing I had it now and not during the season :o

Maybe it was a direct to the coach? I'm getting conflicting answers so I'm just going to email the state office.

There is a ruling in the Case Book that says a HC can receive an indirect when the TEAM is charged with a technical foul. Normally, a TEAM technical foul does not count towards the HC in any way, but there are a few instances where it is appropriate for the indirect to be assessed.

This would seem like one of those cases.

BTW POE #2 in this year's book now makes it a national policy whereas the previous policy of the NFHS was to leave this area up to the determination of each individual state association. That's a big deal, if your state didn't have any previous regulations on these activities. Such is the case with Nevada.

Adam Thu Oct 28, 2010 07:25am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 698563)
BTW POE #2 in this year's book now makes it a national policy whereas the previous policy of the NFHS was to leave this area up to the determination of each individual state association. That's a big deal, if your state didn't have any previous regulations on these activities. Such is the case with Nevada.

This is the first I've seen this, Nevada. You're right, it's a big deal. CO hasn't had a policy that I've been aware of. For those states, it is new, and I wonder if the state offices are going to direct a softer approach the first year.

chseagle Thu Oct 28, 2010 07:38am

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 698430)
Does any other state require officials to take the court at TWENTY minutes?

Generally around here, the floor officials make their presence known after the teams have already taken the court, with between 15-18 minutes left of pregame.

Adam Thu Oct 28, 2010 07:47am

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 698572)
Generally around here, the floor officials make their presence known after the teams have already taken the court, with between 15-18 minutes left of pregame.

"Make their presence known?" Do you mean simply walk out onto the court? Or is it like Texas, where the officials blow their whistle to let the pampered athletes know it's time to stop breaking the rules?

chseagle Thu Oct 28, 2010 07:55am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 698574)
"Make their presence known?" Do you mean simply walk out onto the court? Or is it like Texas, where the officials blow their whistle to let the pampered athletes know it's time to stop breaking the rules?

Sorry, should of clarified...I was meaning they are not present when the teams first come out for warmups. They come out while the teams are in the middle of their warmups.

Jurassic Referee Thu Oct 28, 2010 07:55am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 698574)
"Make their presence known?" Do you mean simply walk out onto the court? Or is it like Texas, where the officials blow their whistle to let the pampered athletes know it's time to stop breaking the rules?

Might be more a case of the coaches in Texas. Don't want to upset 'em. :)

Ricockulous practice! Find an excuse to ignore a very plainly-written rule that's been in effect umpty-ump years.:rolleyes: Texas wants to change their officials into See No Evil monkeys. If you're not going to follow it, just change the damn rule.

Grumble, grumble, grumble.....

Adam Thu Oct 28, 2010 09:18am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 698578)
Might be more a case of the coaches in Texas. Don't want to upset 'em. :)

Ricockulous practice! Find an excuse to ignore a very plainly-written rule that's been in effect umpty-ump years.:rolleyes: Texas wants to change their officials into See No Evil monkeys. If you're not going to follow it, just change the damn rule.

Grumble, grumble, grumble.....

I'm with ya, boss.


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