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grunewar Wed Sep 22, 2010 08:39pm

Shoot Me!
 
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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 693462)
The other question then is: what is, specifically, considered jewelry?

I'm not going to get into a semantics and definitions discussion here. Ill leave the jewelry to my wife!

I'll say this though ......the officials ON THE FLOOR are responsible for policing what the players are permitted to wear or not.

As for those of you at the table, as has been said before - don't worry about it.

Nevadaref Thu Sep 23, 2010 02:42am

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 693462)
The other question then is: what is, specifically, considered jewelry?

Anything which isn't specifically declared by the NFHS to NOT be jewelry.
Seems simple to me.

GoodwillRef Thu Sep 23, 2010 05:02am

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Originally Posted by constable (Post 693257)
We had a meeting last night. We discussed the knee brace rule. For a long time our association wanted the braces covered with a sleeve even though the rule didn't specify. We opted against it last night. It was determined setting aside that rule is no different from setting aside any other rule.



Any other associations had similar discussion ?

Of all of the thousands of topics you could discuss at a basketball meeting and your association chooses to talk about additional sleeving of a knee brace that meets all current rules and safety standards. No other pressing issues happening in the basketball world in Canada?

BillyMac Thu Sep 23, 2010 06:15am

Carrot, Karat, Carat ???
 
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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 693462)
The other question then is: what is, specifically, considered jewelry?

If you weren't born with it, it's jewelry.

GoodwillRef Thu Sep 23, 2010 06:20am

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Originally Posted by billymac (Post 693503)
if you weren't born with it, it's jewelry.

+1

grunewar Thu Sep 23, 2010 06:23am

Who woulda thunk it?
 
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 693503)
If you weren't born with it, it's jewelry.

Wow, a tattoo is jewelry?

chseagle Thu Sep 23, 2010 06:32am

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 693465)
I'm not going to get into a semantics and definitions discussion here. Ill leave the jewelry to my wife!

I'll say this though ......the officials ON THE FLOOR are responsible for policing what the players are permitted to wear or not.

As for those of you at the table, as has been said before - don't worry about it.

How often do floor officials notice a player on the floor with a necklace or earrings?

I am asking to see what the varying responses are.

To some any & all piercings are jewelry, to others it just depends on the location oif the piercing(s).

How the rule is stated, no jewelry allowed, does that include body piercings no matter the location, & if so how can that be enforced?

chseagle Thu Sep 23, 2010 06:34am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 693503)
If you weren't born with it, it's jewelry.

How many college & NBA players are guilty of that with their tattoos?

grunewar Thu Sep 23, 2010 07:28am

I'm not a plumber.......
 
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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 693507)
How often do floor officials notice a player on the floor with a necklace or earrings?

I am asking to see what the varying responses are.

To some any & all piercings are jewelry, to others it just depends on the location of the piercing(s).

How the rule is stated, no jewelry allowed, does that include body piercings no matter the location, & if so how can that be enforced?

I do a lot of girls V games. After we enter the court I look very carefully for berets, pins, earrings, necklaces, etc. Hair devices can be especially tough to spot depending on hair/device color. But, many are shiny and I catch the glare off the lights. If I see em I call the player over and tell them to get rid of em.

At the Captain's meeting they are specifically told about jewelry. At the coaches meeting - we ask the coaches, "Are your players properly equipt and ready to play?"

If after that I notice a player on the court with jewelry on......TWEEEEET! "Coach, I need another player, this one's not ready." AND, I send them off. No taking it off as they walk to the bench, etc. They're gone until the next dead ball.

Usually, the players learn quickly and it's not a problem as the yr goes on.

We've had the discussion about body piercings here before too.

Bottom Line - If I see it I take care of it.

bob jenkins Thu Sep 23, 2010 07:30am

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 693507)
How the rule is stated, no jewelry allowed, does that include body piercings no matter the location, & if so how can that be enforced?

Yes. Enforced if / when seen. I don't / won't go looking for items hidden in the mouth or under the uniform, even if the scorekeeper insists that someone is wearing jewelry.

chseagle Thu Sep 23, 2010 08:40am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 693518)
Yes. Enforced if / when seen. I don't / won't go looking for items hidden in the mouth or under the uniform, even if the scorekeeper insists that someone is wearing jewelry.

I was just asking a generalized question pertaining to the rule as it pertains to piercings.

It's not like I'm gonna do as suggested. Considering there's a lot of piercings that can't be seen through clothing, or noticed.

Judtech Thu Sep 23, 2010 09:05am

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Originally Posted by GoodwillRef (Post 693491)
Of all of the thousands of topics you could discuss at a basketball meeting and your association chooses to talk about additional sleeving of a knee brace that meets all current rules and safety standards. No other pressing issues happening in the basketball world in Canada?

Shoot, more than half the discussions we have in our meetings is about uniforms, hair control devices, etc. Basically stuff that has nothing to do with what happens on the floor. I mean, does it really affect the outcome of a game is there is more than one manufacturers logo on the socks? Please!

mbyron Thu Sep 23, 2010 09:39am

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 693516)
After we enter the court I look very carefully for berets....

Like this one?

http://clandestinechic.files.wordpre.../aa-beret.jpeg

GoodwillRef Thu Sep 23, 2010 09:39am

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Originally Posted by Judtech (Post 693542)
Shoot, more than half the discussions we have in our meetings is about uniforms, hair control devices, etc. Basically stuff that has nothing to do with what happens on the floor. I mean, does it really affect the outcome of a game is there is more than one manufacturers logo on the socks? Please!

I forgot about the man. logo...my favorite!!! ;)

grunewar Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:39am

Ed Zackery
 
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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 693544)

Illegal. Go sit down! ;)


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