Originally Posted by icallfouls (Post 687706)

Discussion started last year about elbows and the situations that might develop.

My biggest problem with it, is that when one of the bigs sets a screen or gets a rebound with a smaller player in the area and there is contact. An elbow from the bigs is 99.99% of the time going to come in contact above the neck of the shorter player. It places undue burden on the taller player to avoid contact with the shorter player.

Part of the problem has been that smaller players swipe at the arms of the taller players and officials don't protect the bigger players because they are expected to play through it. It really puts taller players at a disadvantage when a smaller player tries swipe at a ball from the blind side or from below.

While I understand the intent, let us continue to use the previous guidelines for swinging elbows for another season before implementing the more highly subjective levels of contact.

In the end, we will do what we gotta do

Originally Posted by CLH (Post 687675)

OHHHHHH! See here's our problem...He must have spoken about applying a rule that doesn't exist...surprise! Over here on the NCAA-W side, we only deal in what's actually IN the rulebook...My mistake... :p

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 687690)

It's not as hard as you think; not all picks are set with the screener facing the screened player. Also, even when they are, sometimes the screener sticks his/her elbows up. It's not common, but it's possible.
one other possibility:
A1 sets a screen on B1, and sticks his elbows out to the side in the process to make himself wider.
After his elbows are up and in place, B2 comes around from behind and runs smack into A1's elbow with his nose. A1's elbow was stationary, but illegal.

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 687837)

And the officials on that side do such a good job officiating what is "in the rulebook" too. I will have to keep that in mind when I watch the next game.

Peace