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Adam Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:36am

To ref, or not to ref
 
Actually, the question is more accurately phrased, "to pay dues this year, or not to pay dues this year."
I'm up against the deadlines, but have been diagnosed with a meniscus tear that I hope is minor. I'll be starting PT in a couple weeks, hoping the problem can be solved without surgery.
My question, for those who have been there or know someone well who has been there; are the odds good that I'll be recovered in time for the season? Worst case scenario, by January?

bob jenkins Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:23am

What happens if you don't pay dues? Do you have to "start over" (e.g., seniority, rankings) next year, or do you pick up where you left off? Can you pay late if you recover (along with some late payment fee)? IF you pay now but can't work, can you get a (partial) refund?

Adam Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:28am

My ranking in this association is still pretty new (would be my third year), so that's not an issue. If I don't pay soon, I won't be able to work this year at all, at least not during the season. Could probably do MS stuff, if I wanted.

Raymond Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:46am

I have had a couple buddiies who came back too soon from that injury and ended limping badly while officiating and eventually had to sit out the next season.

BillyMac Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:51am

The Slings And Arrows Of Outrageous Fortune ...
 
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 687378)
To pay dues this year, or not to pay dues this year?

How much are the dues? Our local board's annual dues are usually a little more than $100.00 (plus a 7% fee for income earned). For me, it would be an easy decision. It would be worth $100.00 to me to get my rulebook, casebook, and manual, to be able to attend meetings to keep up with rule and mechanics changes, and to continue to serve on our training committee. And then there's our board's end of the season banquet, top class, with an open bar (included in the dues).

Snaqwells: Good luck. “For I will restore health to you and heal you of your wounds,” says the Lord. (Jeremiah 30:17)

dsturdy5 Sat Jul 31, 2010 01:01pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 687381)
My ranking in this association is still pretty new (would be my third year), so that's not an issue. If I don't pay soon, I won't be able to work this year at all, at least not during the season. Could probably do MS stuff, if I wanted.

Our board has a "non-working member" designation, which I actually used last season. You pay 50% of the dues by the due date and are not to work games. You may still attend all meetings, go through clinics, etc. However, if anything changes throughout the season and you wish to work, you pay the second half of your dues and you are able to pick up work immediately, though chances at things like state tournament games are likely out the window.

JRutledge Sat Jul 31, 2010 01:21pm

Pay the dues and you can you will not make anyone wonder why you are not there. Do not pay the dues and you might be forgotten. ;)

Peace

BLydic Sat Jul 31, 2010 05:47pm

Obviously it depends on the extent of the tear. I am a big advocate of PT over surgery, but both of my meniscus tears required surgery. They were swelling up each time I did anything strenuous and the draining/hydrocortisone provided little relief.

If worst case means getting surgery, my last knee was scoped in the August timeframe and although very sore, I worked mid-November.

26 Year Gap Sat Jul 31, 2010 09:45pm

I'd pay them. I have kept my VT IAABO membership dues paid. After being 10 years as a member I can pay the retired rate, but I do not have to start all over by maintaining membership. Plus, you might still be able to attend games and pick up pointers at a local HS while you are inactive.

grunewar Sun Aug 01, 2010 07:29am

Pay Em
 
I had knee surgery several yrs back that was much more extensive than this - so I am confident you'll be back.

Personally, I'd pay the dues - but take your time returning to the court. I found it a very fine line between letting my body heal and aggressive rehabilitation. Be smart as a setback can be worse than the original problem. (Truth be told, I was rehabbing and ahead of schedule....then some lady hit me with her van while I was walking my dog and in a cross-walk! I take it you probably won't have that added complication!!) ;)

Concur with the other's suggestions - get your books, go to meetings, offer to train and evaluate, go to games and listen to pre-games/post games, etc. Stay involved.

Good luck!

BillyMac Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:39pm

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 687419)
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gtwbam Sun Aug 01, 2010 02:01pm

Had Meniscus surgery this year in Feb 2010. 11 days after surgery my Dr. needed to drain excess fluid from my knee. (This sometimes happens when there's a meniscus tear and what they call a Bakers Cyst). I then started physical therapy. Went 3 to 4 times a week over a period of 6 weeks. My knee has held up great. I still exercise it and where a brace off and on. Good Luck.

tjones1 Sun Aug 01, 2010 02:45pm

If you are planning on being in that area for a while, I would pay my dues. If you are unable to work, I would still attend meetings and try to help out.

Certainly hope you recover and are able to get back on the floor this season!

bainsey Sun Aug 01, 2010 04:27pm

I find it intesting how due dates vary for each board. My board requires dues paid by existing members for next year by the spring meeting in mid March.

zm1283 Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:33am

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 687453)
I find it intesting how due dates vary for each board. My board requires dues paid by existing members for next year by the spring meeting in mid March.

Ours is the same way, except we pay by April for the next season.

Raymond Mon Aug 02, 2010 08:20am

Ours are due the first week in October.

Judtech Mon Aug 02, 2010 05:48pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 687378)
Actually, the question is more accurately phrased, "to pay dues this year, or not to pay dues this year."
I'm up against the deadlines, but have been diagnosed with a meniscus tear that I hope is minor. I'll be starting PT in a couple weeks, hoping the problem can be solved without surgery.
My question, for those who have been there or know someone well who has been there; are the odds good that I'll be recovered in time for the season? Worst case scenario, by January?

SNAQ, I have had more knee surgeries than I care to remember!! So here is my exerperienced yet non medical professional opinion: It depends! HA
Miniscus tears are generally not that big a deal. IMO, if you act now (sorry had an infomercial on) you should be fine by January at the latest. Baring any complications, it would be anywhere from 6 to 8 weeks. If you want more info, feel free to send me a message and I will give you any more info I can.
MOST IMPORTANTLY is post op rehab. Some Ortho's. are not big with it and I have no idea why. Make sure to ask your Ortho for physical therapy, if they won't refer you then have your GP/Fam. Doc do it. If you can find a place with a pool for aquatic therapy that is the best!!
Let me know if you need any more info.

muxbule Mon Aug 02, 2010 07:22pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 687378)
I'm up against the deadlines, but have been diagnosed with a meniscus tear that I hope is minor. I'll be starting PT in a couple weeks, hoping the problem can be solved without surgery.
My question, for those who have been there or know someone well who has been there; are the odds good that I'll be recovered in time for the season? Worst case scenario, by January?

I have been there and I don't know your age, which may be a factor on recovery, but it was 6 weeks from the sugery date that I was back on the court. Mine was also a meniscus tear. I never tried PT so if you try that for a month or so add it on to the total.
Good luck.

Adam Mon Aug 02, 2010 08:47pm

Actually, my doctor has prescribed PT, hoping that fixes the problem.
The diagnosis was actually a relief, as it explains why the pain hadn't gone away since the season was over. I figured it was just the extra weight, and I just needed to rest adn then I'd be able to work extra hard at losing the weight this summer. Summer's almost over, and the pain hadn't gone away; only got worse until a week and a half ago on vacation when I couldn't even walk on it.

In hind sight, I should have gone to the Dr. in January when I felt it pop during a game.

SmokeEater Wed Aug 04, 2010 08:49am

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Originally Posted by gtwbam (Post 687446)
Had Meniscus surgery this year in Feb 2010. 11 days after surgery my Dr. needed to drain excess fluid from my knee. (This sometimes happens when there's a meniscus tear and what they call a Bakers Cyst). I then started physical therapy. Went 3 to 4 times a week over a period of 6 weeks. My knee has held up great. I still exercise it and where a brace off and on. Good Luck.

Had a small tear 6 years ago that Doc decided would not require surgery. It took forever to heal, by forever I don't think the pain has ever gone away. Now I ref with the aid of my good friends Advil and Tylenol and knee support. If you have an option get the surgery you will be back up and on the floor in 3months and probably close to 100% in 6 months depending on severity of tear.

MD Longhorn Wed Aug 04, 2010 09:20am

Pay - and explain your situation. If you can't work by the time games start, ask if they would pay a little for newbie evaluations - and stick with the clinics.

fullor30 Thu Aug 05, 2010 01:09pm

Going in 8/20 for meniscus scope. It's been torn for a few years but is getting worse. I did alot of ball this summer and would have good and bad days, but overall, it's not very bad, just needs cleaning out according to my doc. I'm thinking I'm just about fully recovered by October. Am I dreaming? It helps I'm in decent shape, thin(6' 170), without any previous knee problems.

That said, I had two stents put in back in March..........like having your oil changed.


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