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CDurham Sun Jul 11, 2010 02:20pm

Position on Court
 
In our association we have summer clinics to help move back into officiating for the upcoming season. I have a couple of questions that I would like to run by everyone:

1) Where does everyone like to stand in relation to the boundary lines when calling? Run on the line? A little on the court? Or a little off the court? Or wherever your feet lead you?

2) On a jump ball when in the UMP 1 position (2 person crew) and the toss is made, do you wait for a team to get full possession before making the run towards the proper goal? Or, move in the direction you think the ball is going to go?
- I feel like sometimes I move too soon before the ball is even in full possession.

Thanks!

BillyMac Sun Jul 11, 2010 02:36pm

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Originally Posted by CDurham (Post 685033)
Where does everyone like to stand in relation to the boundary lines when calling? Run on the line? A little on the court? Or a little off the court? Or wherever your feet lead you?

The farther back away from the boundary I can get the better chance to get a more open, or "wider", look at the players and the play.

Of course, there is a limit. I'm not going far enough back to stand in the concession stand line. Unless, of course, a hot mom is working concessions that night.

JRutledge Sun Jul 11, 2010 02:48pm

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Originally Posted by CDurham (Post 685033)
1) Where does everyone like to stand in relation to the boundary lines when calling? Run on the line? A little on the court? Or a little off the court? Or wherever your feet lead you?

About 4 or 5 feet is usually ideal, but that only depends on the court. You do not always have that much room or space for all kinds of reasons. But never work on the court as the lead while the ball is in the FC if you have room to not be there.

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Originally Posted by CDurham (Post 685033)
2) On a jump ball when in the UMP 1 position (2 person crew) and the toss is made, do you wait for a team to get full possession before making the run towards the proper goal? Or, move in the direction you think the ball is going to go?
- I feel like sometimes I move too soon before the ball is even in full possession.

I only move when the ball moves and possession is clear or about to be clear. Never move just because you think something is going to happen that has not yet happened.

Peace

eg-italy Sun Jul 11, 2010 05:04pm

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Originally Posted by CDurham (Post 685033)
2) On a jump ball when in the UMP 1 position (2 person crew) and the toss is made, do you wait for a team to get full possession before making the run towards the proper goal? Or, move in the direction you think the ball is going to go?
- I feel like sometimes I move too soon before the ball is even in full possession.

If you move when possession is clear (or about to be clear, as JRutledge says) you may be slightly late in taking your position. If you move too early you will be late in case the ball actually goes in the opposite direction; by Murphy's law, this will surely happen. :)

We should do as in soccer: all players in their back court. The umpire will be sure about the direction of play, no more problems with over and back, ... :D

Adam Sun Jul 11, 2010 06:16pm

Lead: hardly ever on the court. Rarely, if ever, when not in transition.
Trail: Move in an arc depending on where the ball is to get the best view. usually on the court.
Center: I move forward and backward depending on the ball location.

Mark Padgett Sun Jul 11, 2010 06:23pm

My position on the court is usually either supine or prone, depending on how many games I've worked in a row.

rockyroad Sun Jul 11, 2010 07:10pm

I agree with Snaqs on the positioning infoo. The rule of thumb is to go where you need to go to referee the play. So there is no (or should be no) hard and fast rule about where exactly you stand in relation to endline, sideline, etc...

As for the tip...if the ball is tipped deep into one team's backcourt, retrieved there by the team going the other way, and there is pressure on that player - you need to get back there to referee that situation. The R will need to run down and become the Lead. Other than that situation, wait until you see who has possession and then sprint to where you need to be.

mbyron Sun Jul 11, 2010 08:08pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 685041)
Lead: hardly ever on the court. Rarely, if ever, when not in transition.
Trail: Move in an arc depending on where the ball is to get the best view. usually on the court.
Center: I move forward and backward depending on the ball location.

I could be wrong, but I took the OP to be asking about where you stand to signal after you have a whistle. I'm sure he wasn't suggesting that Lead stand inbounds during a live ball.

bballplyrref Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:32pm

two man mechanics, as the trail you should RARELY be "hugging the sideline" as most officials do. Especially, when the ball is on the opposite side of where the trail is positioned it is essential that the trail move onto the court to get the best angle of the "action area". by doing that you also leave your lead with the responsibility of taking the rest of the 6-8 players which is why two man sucks! i think there are only a few states in the country that assign two man games and CA is one of them.

Adam Tue Jul 13, 2010 07:19am

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 685052)
I could be wrong, but I took the OP to be asking about where you stand to signal after you have a whistle. I'm sure he wasn't suggesting that Lead stand inbounds during a live ball.

Well, one of us is wrong. :)

mbyron Tue Jul 13, 2010 08:18am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 685242)
Well, one of us is wrong. :)

And I'm more charitable...

Adam Tue Jul 13, 2010 08:32pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 685251)
And I'm more charitable...

True enough; but that doesn't make it more reasonable. :)


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