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JRutledge Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:59am

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Originally Posted by GoodwillRef (Post 686280)
I would rather work on items that you are going to use doing the season and get really good at those. I don't know if I would work on everything and try a ton of new things...sometimes we tend to pick up bad habits during the summer and they carryover into the season.

I agree I am not experimenting with much of anything unless it is something that I have been told I should add and I see the value in it. But I want the summer to be as normal as possible considering that there are almost never going to be all the same mechanics when it comes to switching or foul reporting.

Peace

BillyMac Thu Jul 22, 2010 05:12pm

Walk And Chew Gum ???
 
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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 686229)
Try working without a lanyard.

Tried it once, and only once. Kept on spitting it out. I got tired of picking the whistle off the floor, so I went back to my lanyard in the second half. We have a few "old timers" that don't use a lanyard. I guess that it takes talent, coordination, and a lot of practice.

mbyron Thu Jul 22, 2010 05:31pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 686343)
Tried it once, and only once. Kept on spitting it out. I got tired of picking the whistle off the floor, so I went back to my lanyard in the second half. We have a few "old timers" that don't use a lanyard. I guess that it takes talent, coordination, and a lot of practice.

I know one guy who does it, and he's not an old timer.

He looks silly sticking the thing in his belt to report fouls, IMO.

grunewar Thu Jul 22, 2010 09:47pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 686065)
Where was justacoach when you needed him?

Hey BNR, guess who I worked with tonight?

Yep, the 4th best ref in his house! :p

Good fun!!

Mark Padgett Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:49pm

Speaking of not having a whistle around your neck...
 
I was told this story when I joined the board of our local kids rec league 18 years ago. It seems that about two years before that, we had a 3rd grade boys game which started on a Saturday morning at 8:15 and the two scheduled refs didn't show. This was before everyone had cell phones and they didn't have access at the school to the area where there was a pay phone, so they couldn't call the ref scheduler before the game started. As per league policy, there was a board member at the game. He decided to referee, even though he'd never done it before. He didn't have a whistle, so when he wanted to stop play, he threw his open hand in the air and yelled "STOP". It worked OK, especially since games at that level were (and still are) running clock.

The game was over at about 9:00 and he had someone drive over to a nearby drug store which opened then (this was before we had any 24/7 Walgreen's in this area) and buy a cheap whistle (no lanyard available). The same guy used a pay phone (remember those?) at the store to try to call the ref scheduler, but he was working a game at a gym. The board member used the whistle for another game, and refs finally showed up to work game three. They had no idea what happened to the guys who were supposed to work the first two games.

The board member who worked those games talked about it for years as an example of how you can improvise when necessary.

Even though it was "just" a 3rd grade game, I'd hate to try to work it without a whistle.

grunewar Fri Jul 23, 2010 06:47am

Hmmmm.......
 
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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 686369)
he threw his open hand in the air and yelled "STOP".

I know you're on the west coast and I'm on the east coast, but I wonder if this technique will work when I start to read some of your "bizarro basketball experience" stories?

bwahahaha! :D

Mark Padgett Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:00am

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 686384)
I know you're on the west coast and I'm on the east coast, but I wonder if this technique will work when I start to read some of your "bizarro basketball experience" stories?

bwahahaha! :D

Why don't you put a lanyard around your neck and pull it really, really tight! ;)

bob jenkins Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:41am

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 686411)
Why don't you put a lanyard around your neck and pull it really, really tight! ;)

We already have at least one apparently person here whose brain is apparetnly deprived of oxygen.

Back In The Saddle Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:56am

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Originally Posted by GoodwillRef (Post 686280)
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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 686229)
Summer is a great time to try out stuff you wouldn't normally do. Try a different approach to handling an irritating coach. Talk to players more. Try working wider or closer in at L. Try moving more or less at T. Try being bigger or smaller. Try to appear more deliberate or relaxed. Try out that super cool quadruple tweet thing you heard somebody use. Let 'em play more or tighten up more, and see what happens. Find a kid who lacks confidence and try using your demeanor and a little humor to give him/her a boost. Work on your partnering skills and focus on making a weaker partner better. Talk to a parent or two between games and ask them about their kid. Try working without a lanyard.

The idea is to stretch yourself in new ways and directions. If you make mistakes while doing it, it's only summer ball and nobody is going to care that much. If you don't make mistakes, you're not trying hard enough. ;)

All this assumes, of course, that you are already capable of calling a decent game and don't really have to focus all your energy on reporting mechanics or calling travels.

Just my $0.02

I would rather work on items that you are going to use doing the season and get really good at those. I don't know if I would work on everything and try a ton of new things...sometimes we tend to pick up bad habits during the summer and they carryover into the season.

Two thoughts:

1. If an official still needs work on the basic skills, then my suggestion isn't for him. My suggestion is aimed at the "I've got the basics, now what?" crowd. Also I try not to set aside my core skills when I work summer ball. What I'm doing is in addition to my normal game, and summer is rife with opportunities because honestly most summer games don't challenge us the way regular season games do.

2. I threw out several examples, mostly to illustrate the idea. I wouldn't try all of those at the same time. Much of my experimenting has been more opportunistic. Have an early Saturday morning game and everybody's half asleep, that's a perfect time to work on projecting a little energy and talking to players. You've got an irritating coach and your usual tools aren't helping much, maybe you hold off with the warning and/or T and try something different. There have been an absolute ton of thoughts on how to handle coaches presented here over the years, and I'll bet there are some you've filed away under "I should try that some day". Summer ball is "some day".

As for sticking to things you'll actually use during the regular season, I have incorporated several of my successful "experiments" into my regular season game. They're not core skill stuff, but some are useful tools to have in my box for specific situations. But I am not suggesting that anybody experiment with weirdo stuff that he would never use in a "real" game. Unless you're really bored and just having a little fun ;)

Mark Padgett Fri Jul 23, 2010 02:07pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 686416)
We already have at least one apparently person here whose brain is apparetnly deprived of oxygen.

That must be what's causing your poor spelling and grammar. :D

26 Year Gap Sat Jul 24, 2010 09:08am

Nobody's said it yet, but I would think working without a lanyard would make it easy to violate the First Rule of Officiating.

BillyMac Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:34am

Let Sleeping Dogs Lie ...
 
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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 686517)
Nobody's said it yet, but I would think working without a lanyard would make it easy to violate the First Rule of Officiating.

There was a very good reason why nobody "said it yet".

Back In The Saddle Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:09pm

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 686517)
Nobody's said it yet, but I would think working without a lanyard would make it easy to violate the First Rule of Officiating.

But it is completely in keeping with the spirit of that rule. ;)


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