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Old Thu Jun 03, 2010, 08:18am
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You hustled and used the correct mechanics on all plays in every game. And you're 52 years old. And you never slowed down one little bit, even in your eighth game of your second day doing 8 games/day.
On all plays in every game? Probably not. I'm human.

100% effort to try to be mechanically correct on all plays...w/o a doubt. As mechanically correct as possible most of the time... absolutely. Why would I try not to be?

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And btw, when everybody in that real world out there tells you that maybe you should re-think your position, don't you think that maybe...just maybe...it might not be a bad idea to consider that option?
Everybody? I love that. EVERYBODY.

Anyway, to answer your question - did you read my response to Nevadaref? He gave some helpful input. Loved it. Useful. Helped me evaluate my take on lead in 2 man in situations where lead can't get all the way to baseline.

Nevadaref can post on any damn thread he wants and gives damn good feedback w/o blowing a gasket.
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Old Thu Jun 03, 2010, 11:29am
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Everybody? I love that. EVERYBODY.
Some very experienced and knowledgable officials have disagreed completely with you to date in this thread. Posters whose acumen I certainly respect. If I posted something that they disagreed with so vehemently, I'd sureasheck be questioning myself as to whether I had the right take on something. But, hey, that's just me.

Carry on carrying on.
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Old Thu Jun 03, 2010, 11:41am
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Some very experienced and knowledgable officials have disagreed completely with you to date in this thread. Posters whose acumen I certainly respect. If I posted something that they disagreed with so vehemently, I'd sureasheck be questioning myself as to whether I had the right take on something. But, hey, that's just me.

Carry on carrying on.
I hear you, and I hope I've done that here (see responses to Nevadaref). That's why I originally came to this site. Nevadaref and Snaqwells have been great. You've smacked me a couple of times - ok - fine. I'll live and learn.

Lots of vitriol from others, tho. And, they are anonymous names to me. The only thing I know for sure is JRut is some sort of evaluator that has a busy week coming up.

"idiot"...."liar".... love that stuff from mbchowder. I think his head is going to explode before too long.

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Old Thu Jun 03, 2010, 11:02am
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doing 8 games in a 2 on 1 off format for two days affords three 60 min breaks each day. hustling and using good mechanics is not difficult at all in that format.
Again.... BS!

Doing the math. In order for you to work 2 on 1 off that would require a set of 16 games. Using NFHS rules and mechanics, each game would take approx 1hr 15 min. That does not allow for OT orteams needing 5-10 minutes to warm up. That adds up to a 16 hr day. You would need to eat and stay properly hydrated, which is harder for older people.

Most games require 4-5 miles of running (stopping, starting, etc). That adds up to 64-80 miles for your 16 game set. For you to keep the pace you claim, you would be an elite marathoner. Even at a steady pace, with no quick transitions, is hard to believe that you had no drop off.

I have been to plenty of camp settings, the kids playing the games have more time off (2 games), have substitutes and are much younger and can recover on their worst day, faster than most 52 yr olds.

So keep on kissing the butts of the coaches and making the same unbelievable claims, you will be rewarded accordingly.
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Old Thu Jun 03, 2010, 11:15am
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20 min halves...running clock, except last 2 mins of each half. clock runs when lead hits 15 pts. standard mayb stuff. 3 gyms in separate bldgs on the same campus were used.

saturday sched: 10a/11a on, 12p off, 1p/2p on, 3p off, 4p/5p on, 6 off, 7p/8p on

sunday sched: 10a/11a on, 12p off, 1p/2p on, 3p off, 4p/5p/6p on

yes, i lied. i did 7 on sunday, not 8. i feel terrible. lost track.

never said i did 8 straight.

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Old Thu Jun 03, 2010, 11:43am
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Again.... BS!

Doing the math. In order for you to work 2 on 1 off that would require a set of 16 games. Using NFHS rules and mechanics, each game would take approx 1hr 15 min. That does not allow for OT orteams needing 5-10 minutes to warm up. That adds up to a 16 hr day. You would need to eat and stay properly hydrated, which is harder for older people.
No, it requires, at minimum, 11 games. 2 +1 + 2 + 1 + 2 +1 + 2
Last night I worked a league that had four games (I did two) and we were right on schedule with 1 hour per game.
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Most games require 4-5 miles of running (stopping, starting, etc). That adds up to 64-80 miles for your 16 game set. For you to keep the pace you claim, you would be an elite marathoner. Even at a steady pace, with no quick transitions, is hard to believe that you had no drop off.
4-5 miles? I have a hard time believing that.
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Old Thu Jun 03, 2010, 11:52am
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No, it requires, at minimum, 11 games. 2 +1 + 2 + 1 + 2 +1 + 2
Last night I worked a league that had four games (I did two) and we were right on schedule with 1 hour per game.
Thanks for catching my mistake.
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Most games require 4-5 miles of running (stopping, starting, etc).
Not in spring and summer leagues. A lot of those games are played on MS and even elementary school courts which are much, much smaller.

Besides, who runs in those games?
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Old Thu Jun 03, 2010, 12:00pm
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Not in spring and summer leagues. A lot of those games are played on MS and even elementary school courts which are much, much smaller.

Besides, who runs in those games?
The OP said he hustled and used good mechanics on every play. That would mean he was working the 3 pt line across the floor, down for rebounds, keeps working for a good angle, goes across the lane without hesitation, hustles back to cover his line. That is alot of movement without loosing effort.

If these games were played on smaller than regulation floors, he omitted information to help his claim that he was able to give and sustain 100% hustle.
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Old Thu Jun 03, 2010, 12:09pm
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The OP said he hustled and used good mechanics on every play. That would mean he was working the 3 pt line across the floor, down for rebounds, keeps working for a good angle, goes across the lane without hesitation, hustles back to cover his line. That is alot of movement without loosing effort.

If these games were played on smaller than regulation floors, he omitted information to help his claim that he was able to give and sustain 100% hustle.
One of my earlier posts indicated all games were played on a regulation h.s. court.

I also indicated my speed to spots probably decreased over the course of the day, but my effort did not decrease. I was putting forth the same effort in the latter games (which were championship games) on Sunday as the first games that day. Had to be as sharp as possible for those. The competitive level of play was noticeably higher for those games than during pool play on Saturday.
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Old Thu Jun 03, 2010, 01:19pm
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I also indicated my speed to spots probably decreased over the course of the day, but my effort did not decrease.

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Old Thu Jun 03, 2010, 12:25pm
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Doing the math. In order for you to work 2 on 1 off that would require a set of 16 games.
Not that I want to defend the guy --- but 2 on, 1 off would require an 11 game set to work 8 (assuming you have the first shift). On, On, Off, On, On, Off, On, On, Off, On, On - 8 on's, 3 off's.
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Old Thu Jun 03, 2010, 06:35pm
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Most games require 4-5 miles of running (stopping, starting, etc.)
I used a pedometer for a few high school varsity games this past year. Averaged about three miles, from pregame locker room, to post game locker room.
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Old Thu Jun 03, 2010, 06:37pm
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I average that in some places just getting from the changing room to the gym floor!!!
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Old Fri Jun 04, 2010, 08:38am
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I used a pedometer for a few high school varsity games this past year. Averaged about three miles, from pregame locker room, to post game locker room.
I actually wanted to try that...wife and I run 10k's and 1/2 marathons (ok, SHE does that more than me...psycho ...), but I was interested to see how much mileage is put on during a game
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