Did I Call This Correctly?
Team A made a shot and team B quickly inbounded the ball. Team B threw the ball to half court, where one its players was waiting for the pass in his frontcourt. He bobbled the pass and the ball ended up going back into his backcourt without that player ever establishing possession. One of his teammates who was still in the backcourt picked up the loose ball and dribbled it into the frontcourt. I didn't call anything on the play and just let the game continue (the game was a blowout, so no real damage was done if I was wrong). Was this a backcourt violation...or...because no actual possession was made in the frontcourt, did I make the right call? Any help is appreciated.
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The four elements for having a backcourt violation are: there must be team control; the ball must have achieved frontcourt status; the team in team control must be the last to touch the ball in frontcourt; that same team must be the first to touch after the ball has been in the backcourt.
There is no team control (NFHS) during a throwin until a player gains possession, that is holding, or dribbling the ball, thus, you were correct, no backcourt violation. Nice job on what is a tough call for nonofficials, and, unfortunately, a few officials. |
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1. B1 (OOB) makes a throw-in pass to B2, standing in his frontcourt, who does not catch the ball and it deflects into the backcourt. 2. B1 (OOB) makes a throw-in pass to B2, standing in the BC near the end line from which B1 threw his pass. B2 catches the pass, then turns and throws the ball to B3, standing in the FC, who does not catch the ball but deflects it into the BC. In both cases, B4 is the first player to touch the ball after it goes into the BC. #1 is not a violation, as team control was never established with the ball having FC status. #2 is a violation, as team control was established prior to and continuously through the ball gaining FC status (when it deflected off of B2). |
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ABC in the original post said that a pass was touched in the frontcourt. Not a throw-in, a pass. The play as described is a backcourt violation. Ergo, missed call by ABC. Team control was established before the pass. The ball then achieved frontcourt status when it touched the team B player standing in the frontcourt. The ball then went into the backcourt after touching the team B player and was touched by another team B player. |
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I've read the replies and then I reread my original post. I can see where the confusion came in...sorry for that. It was clear in my head, but not in my explanation.
After A1 made a shot, B1 threw the ball from OOB directly to B2 in their frontcourt. From there the pass was bobbled, etc., etc. This being said, if B1 had passed to B2 in their backcourt...then B2 attempts a pass to B3 in the frontcourt and the pass is bobbled, and subsequently comes back into the backcourt where it is touched by another B player...is that a violation? It was my understanding that a B player must control the ball in the FC, not just touch or bobble it. Please correct me if I'm wrong...this is how I'm going to learn. Sorry again for the confusion caused by the unclear original post. Thanks for all the help. |
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If the pass is an inbounds pass from OB directly to a player in the FC, he bobbles and balls goes into BC where a teammate recovers in BC. VIOLATION If the inbounds pass is controled in the BC and then thrown to a player standing in the FC who bobbles the ball and it goes to BC where a teammate is the next to touch. |
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While there must be TC and the ball must reach the FC, there does not need to be PC in the FC to have a violation. |
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The key error in your post is listed in boldface: in the frontcourt. Such team control is NOT exclusive to the frontcourt. The example you provided above explains this perfectly. I hope this helps. |
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w_sohl gave you the correct rulings for your two different plays. |
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